Rockna Wavedream DAC: Awesomesauce

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    Hi

    I would like to know if you talk in your review :
    - the rockna wavedream edition balanced ( 8 kusd ) or wavedream signature balanced ( 15 Kusd).
    Edition and signature are two models differents

    The edition balanced ( 8kusd ) is better than the denafrips terminator ?

    Thanks
     
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    The Rockna in question here was not the Signature. It was the Edition balanced. Lord I can only imagine what the Signature can do.

    The $699 Schiit Bifrost 2 and $1500 Soekris 1541 are both better DACs than the Denafrips Sperminator. iMO, YMMV, FWIW, etc.

    Tonally the Sperminator was pretty good. It's got a quality of detail via slight sharpening. But ultimately what did it in for me was poor microdynamics and lack of ability to reproduce low level information. Poor ability for recreating pace, rhythm, quick changes in volume levels and fine gradations in volume levels. Emotionally unengaging.

    Denafrips Terminator review here: https://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/denafrips-terminator-dac-review.7810/

    I vehemently disagree with the many Internet reviews exalting its greatness. It's not a bad DAC, but it's way overpriced and too heavy physically for its level of performance. There is a lot of overpriced shit with sales and marketing efforts on the part of distributors and dealers out there. The Terminator is one of them.

    I wanted so to believe that the Terminator was great because the Internet said it was so great that I even set up a volume matched blind test to convince myself otherwise.

    I generally don't like to poo on stuff and hope that people find my reviews themselves. But too many questions in too many threads lately.
     
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    @purr1n ,
    your impressions are one of the main reasons why I have a Rockna wavedream signature XLR on the way. I'm a noob in comparison to your experience for sure, still learning something everyday - mostly by making costly mistakes! reading some of your posts just instigated trust that you won't praise anything unless it truly deserves it, and that you could put your fingers on how something actually sounds with excellent precision. so, thank you for that!

    however, just commenting on what you said up there if I may, I have had a Denafrips terminator for more than a year and a half as my main/only DAC. I even praised it in a forum or two, as I genuinely liked what I was hearing at the time. your impressions are spot on with the older DSP. however, with the latest one, there were noticeable improvements on PRaT and dynamics departments that made the sound more musical. the sound became less thick, more open, even with better layering/sound stage. but they had to sacrifice some of the "rich" tonality which many people liked in the first place with older DSP (including me in the past), despite that DSP's evident various weaknesses. after I did the DSP upgrade, I've used the terminator until last month when I started to feel with all the new better components I introduced, that my DAC has possibly became the bottleneck. actually, hearing my friend's Aries Cerat kassandra ref ii DAC was the last straw that made me seek a better converter.

    only now that I have sold my terminator, and I'm temporarily using my old Questyle CMA600i DAC/pre/headamp (AKM chip) as a DAC for my main stereo rig while waiting on the Rockna, I started to realize your comments about highs slight harshness with terminator does apply somehow. i think that might be more noticeable in more transparent/revealing stereo systems, which I like to think that mine has developed into. the Questyle CMA600i overall is not better, not as capable, but its presentation is more relaxed, heck even probably more detailed.

    if you could get your hands on a terminator with the new DSP, might be worth checking out how the DAC sound/performance has changed, at least out of curiosity :)
     
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    I wish I could get my hands on a Terminator with the new DSP, but these high-end things don't come by often. Not as often now compared to 10 years ago. So these companies that make expensive boutique high-end DACs only get one shot with me (or with prior owners who graciously lend me their gear). If they blow that shot, then that's it.
     
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    As I said in my review, the DAC I was using was the signature balanced edition (mentioned twice).
    I've since ordered one since my review and will present a more comprehensive review with the msb select ii and termi with the updated board end of March. However, I do not think the termi will be on the same level as even the base model Rockna.
     
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    I would love to hear your thoughts on the Kassandra.
     
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    What's up with all the Randos lately throwing out random questions in their first posts without ever following the direction at the top of every flippin' page regarding introducing yourself and focusing on value-added input? Jeez.
     
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    Arrange to have one sent to me.
     
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    Is kassandra your mom, cause if so I’ve already demoed and posted review on yelp
     
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    hi all

    I finally bought the wavedream edition balanced....but i don't see how use the oversampling mode ??
    Thanks for your return
     
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    It's a 16x oversampling DAC.
     
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    Hi

    Nicolae Jitariu from Rockna said me that "our dacs have both oversampling or non-oversampling modes. They are selectable from menu"
    I don't see how choose between these two modes from the menu ??
     
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    The filters are for oversampling, that's their whole purpose, turning them off puts it into NOS mode.
     
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    ok thanks
     
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    I am waiting for reviews but the Wavelight might be my next move. It is also preamp (analog volume control, not digital), with HT Bypass (yay!), and selectable gain on its outputs - amazing. I'm am building a pair of diy amps now and might be enticed to sell my integrated and Yggdrasil for one. It is a hair under 5 grand though which is more than I have ever spent on gear that isn't speakers.
     
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    Hadn't checked on Rockna / Audiobyte in a looong time. Good to see they're still releasing cool products!

    The WaveLight and Hydra-VOX couldn't be more different in philosophy, but are both really interesting!
     

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