Sony IER-Z1R Review and Measurements

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  1. YMO

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    Fuck that shit, I'm not listening to it then. Anything sounding similar to Grado nowadays will make me kill myself.
     
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    Just get on the loaner :)

    I need to try some different tips than the ones included with it. The loose seals definitely make it Grado-ish. No seriously. It finally came to me: where have I heard this before. It's a Grado sound.

    I hoping a deeper insertion with smaller tips might work. Maybe I can fit one the smaller Final tips to work. I'm just leery of losing another tip inside my ear canal.
     
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    And on that note, I'll post again when/if I get the loaner. The Grado sound makes me want to run.
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    I'll close with a few notes:
    1. I mean it's entirely possible that some of you guys may like it. It won't hurt my feelings if you do. In fact, it would be cool if some people in the loaner did like them.
    2. My approach here was nitpicky as hell because I was asked to directly compare technicalities to other TOTL IEMs. Thanks for asking. You guys know I won't bother to say more or look into things more unless if asked.
    3. As far as the frequency response, I already sort of expected that I would not like it based on @La @Cenric's frequency response plots.
    4. I was hoping there were other traits that would win me over or allow me to recommend this for others.
    5. IMO, the execution toward Sony's vision (three drivers, each working at what they do the best, and having a good quality glue that binds them) fell short.
     
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    I'll drop my 2 cents from the perspective of someone who had the cash ready to spend on either the Solaris and IER-Z1R and ultimately went for the latter after a few weeks of back-and-forth. Obviously my wheelhouse is in IEMs but I've also tried a sizable collection of headphones as well so don't hesitate to ask for reference gear.

    YMMV, IMHO, sound is subjective etc. etc.

    The case for the Solaris:
    • Projects outward much further than the Z1R. Much more spacious sounding.
    • Faster transients in general, more specifically in the bass regions
    • More obvious and forward detailing, though not necessarily "more resolving" in my opinion
    • Well executed treble tuning, wouldn't call it dark nor piercing by any means
    The case for the IER-Z1R:
    • More realistic bass response, digs down into the sub-bass regions better
    • Timbre (time domain stuff) sounds more accurate, lacks any resemblance of classic "BA timbre" that I'm always complaining about
    • Better tonal balance in the midrange area, follows my target curve more closely
    • Speed of treble response (less splashy though not by a large margin)
    The case against the Solaris:
    • A "dilution" of the bass response, sounds like typical BA bass mixing in with the DD which helps with coherence but also diminishes the realism of the bass as a whole
    • Odd dip past 4kHz, your "target curve" may vary but for me it results in an unrealistic suppression of upper harmonics for many instruments that make them sound strained or choked out
    • Odd shell shape, horrible fit for many ears as they stick out in a weird angle
    The case against the IER-Z1R:
    • Extremely huge and heavy shells, more than most ears can fully fit
    • Highly dependent on insert depth, a shallow fit results in harsh and sibilant treble similar to that of the EX1000. A point made worse by the above.
    • Suppressed lower mids, essentially the antithesis to the Solaris' suppressed upper mids. Not strong for the bass to alto range of instruments.
    I also wouldn't agree that they shouldn't be compared, they're actually more similar than different in terms of frequency response. Ultimately the Solaris' FR and slight limpness of what should've been raw DD bass were dealbreakers for me, so I went for the IER-Z1R. Neither are flawless by any means of course, the IEM game is all about compromise given the lack of real estate and sacrifices required for portability.
     
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