Takstar PRO 80

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  1. ultrabike

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    So this is going to be kind of simple for me. I don't like them... So lets get down with it:

    These come in a nice case and aesthetically they look pleasant to me. The band reminds me a lot of the Beyers. But these are black. They look solid.

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    I wouldn't call these super-comfy like the NoneTech Hams, but I've seen worse. The headband head support is very soft.

    So down with how they sound:

    I think these are pretty awful. These have way too much tizziness for me, somehow. Very wonky mids. The sound out of them is fairly artificial and plastic-like. Bass goes low, but I feel it's got too much of it. Resolution is not very good. Too much "fun".

    They are not particularly cheap at $77 ($180 MSRP). And that's probably because of the built materials, box and other stuff.

    Maybe a diamond in the rough requiring some modding.

    Measurements:

    Frequency Response

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    Distortion Right

    Takstar_Pro_80_dist_right.png

    Distortion Left

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    CSD Right

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    CSD Left

    Takstar_Pro_80_csd_left.png

    Further Impressions:

    Definitively bassy and the box is nice. I did not like them. Maybe it's the notch at 4k or distortion in the 3k to 7k region. Who knows.

    I'm probably less crazy about these ones. Hated the mids.

    Could also be that today I'm a little more picky.

    Further Measurements:

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    Thanks for sharing!

    It would be interesting to see how the HI-2050 ('semi'-open version) compares.
    From memories it has some strong points for the price (40 dollars of so, although there's no magic box included with the HI-2050).
    I guess there's less of a notch at 4kHz on the HI-2050 but in exchange there's some extra energy around 2.5kHz that reminds some of the AKGs K701/2.
    I quite liked them with strings, although the 3kHz to 7kHz performance is still arguable.
    All in all, a DT880-like experience for little money. Not as refined, that's sure, but hopefully more balanced than the Pro 80.
     
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    Thanks for checking out my lil write up Klasse.

    I haven't spent enough time with the DT880s. But have some experience with the DT990s and DT770s. The DT990s are too bright relative to these. However, IMO the DT770s might be closer. In fact, these look quite a bit like them for a fraction of the price and in an all black presentation!

    Not a big fan of the DT770s. Bill-P did some mods in his and fixed a lot of things I didn't like about them.

    For reference, here are Bill-P's impressions and measurements of the DT770:

    DT770 impressions by Bill-P:
    DT770 measurements

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    Is that a 250 Ohm version?

    I've noticed that the DT770 measurment is 85dB @ 1kHz while the Taktar Pro 80 is 90dB @ 1kHz.
    Haven't seen many times graphs showing the variability of the FR with volume.
    Tyll publish THD at 90dB and 100dB which is very nice, but not FR at different levels.

    It would be interesting to know how much the FR of a headphone varies between (let's say) 80dB and 100dB.
    If you've seen these kind of graphs somewhere please point me in that direction. I'm interested.
     
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    Yes. That's the 250 Ohm version I think. I could measure the impedance of the Takstar and see. I think it's rated 60 ohms. But it's funny that there is a DT770 Pro-80 as well rated 80 ohms...

    FR doesn't change much with volume. Distortion does however.

    I could do a few measurements of these or some others in the future if you like at different volumes. But I expect next to no difference based on what I've seen so far.

    Looking at the IF responses of the DT770-600 and the Takstar Pro-80, it does seem like there are differences. Not sure about the DT770 Pro-80 and the Takstar Pro-80 though. At first glance, there seem to be a lot of similarities. I also see some similarities with Bill-P's DT770-250s...
     
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    I guess you are right, if there were significant differences some else would have noticed them quite a long time ago.
    Anyway, I would appreciate 80dB vs 100dB FR measurements, it could also be useful for others wondering that kind of things.

    There's quite a (subjective) consensus that the 80 Ohm version has more bass than the 250 Ohm version.
    If it's true, then the DT770 80 Ohm is probably closer to the Takstar Pro 80.
     
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    Getting off my feet and measuring...

    Takstar_Pro_80_fr_vol.png

    Looking at the cups, the Takstar's seem more oval like. Possible the drivers are different. Interesting the looks and name are somewhat similar. Bill-P's measurements don't seem too far off either.
     
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    These are the epitomy of a U-shaped sound sig to me. Bought them to mod and haven't touched them since first liste. Box is nice.
     
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    Uhnn quite interesting, they're sort of praised for some dudes.

    I used to like a lot with the HM5 velour pads, but after I did some solderdude mods to my HD681 Evo and added a small amp to my chain (Fiio E11k, yeah I know, needed something portable and cheap) I stopped to care about them, I got it for less than 70 bucks on aliexpress, but I bought it without the box, well, the HD 681 Evo looks to be a better option to me, just need some small tweaks.
     
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    I think they're a fucking steal for those wanting a DT770 Pro80 sound on a budget. If you want neutral headphones with above average detail retrieval, well then $60 isn't going to get you that and these aren't what you're looking for anyway. They can be had for $60 or so I believe that I saw the headset version for and if you want an entry level DT770 then fuck these are great. I stand by these being excellent headphones for anyone jumping into the headphone world wanting closed bassy headphones
     
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    Don't you think that it sounds slightly "thin" sometimes?
     
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    My biggest issue with them is that the treble came off glassy/artificial with a bit of sizzle.
     
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    A good fun headphone that does not break or creak (fucking cheap plastics) with bass, yeah I understand. Affordable, fuck yeah there is massive appeal.

    I kept my K181 DJ because the AKG midrange had extra bass. Sometimes you need that extra bass...
     
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    These aren't really that much worse than a DT 770. I could see this being a good cheapo tracking can replacement (except for the drummer DT 770).
     

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