USB Nervosa Thread Decrapifiers, pro interfaces, and bears oh my

MY Audio Pc didn't see my DAC(NAD M51) after connected Intona (industrail) in between. What happened?

First, My PC can recognized DAC. Song can be played. but after a minute, the sound stopped. Then PC didn't recognized my DAC.
I tried to restart, shutdown... but it still happened the same.
What should i do?

 

What USB cables are you using? If they're fancy audiophile ones try something that's spec compliant. (Belkin Gold etc..)

 

I use JCAT reference twin cable for PC to intona and JCAT ISO for intona to DAC.

I just read from another forum. He commended that it caused by heat .
When temp climb up 1 degree, it will caused change in time (in nano sec)
Then it stop working.

If i knew it, i will never ever buy it.

 

Maybe reinstall the driver? I have to do that when I use a Wyrd in front of my dac.

 

How long did it take to get in @neogeosnk ? And can you compare it to another bridge? Trying to get a bead on how these things sound is such a moving taget.

 

That made me LOL. He has spent a buttload on unfucking devices. I feel kind of sorry for him. Every purchase he makes leads to another revelatory and transcendental experience, so he will never be satisfied with what he has.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/803111/xmos-xu208-usb-bridges-the-latest-gen-has-arrived/2160#post_12625074

There is definitely a psychology behind it.

 

You are totally spot on! After a shitload of money spent on usb centiped for defuckifier\isolator\etc... even a $$$ usb->rj45->usb:
http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-...&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00

Q.E.D. The guy's jaw has fallen again for a Focusrite Rednet 3
http://www.head-fi.org/t/806827/aud...-a-new-age-of-computer-audio/45#post_12625189

WTF said USB was King?

Sometimes a little patience is all you need. I'm confident in a few years lots of dac will have a RJ45 input and AOIP will be a more solid standard. Until then I see no reason to burn money on usb defuckifier. I'll play with my cheap raspberry Pi spidf transport of which I'm pretty happy lately after some mods.

 

Just look at the picture he posted on the next page. This is when the fallacy of the false dichotomy, the choice between listening to music or listening to USB decrapifiers/tubes, becomes no longer false. At this point, he is not listening to music anymore and has severely bifurcated music and gear, to the point where he latter assumes the dominant position in the imaginary hierarchy imposed.

 

You might also try cleaning the contacts on the cable and associated gear.
USB is finicky about line loss.

JJ

 

The Raspberry accomplishes some of what the decrapification chains do because they're a lower noise environment, especially if you use an LPS. The spdif hat discussed in the thread here adds in the better clocks and a system built with that is a fraction of the cost of the Rednet let alone the Rednet plus Mutec for spdif reclocking.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Singxer-SU-...0068&clkid=5854323430249773825&_qi=RTM2003752

vs

mutec mc3+ usb

?

 

I've dicked around with the Pi 2 for a year and lately the Pi 3 both with the HifiBerry with an LPS for a while. I could never get either to sound as good as my server with USB output. I tried Volumio and J River for raspian. It sounded great it's just that my PC had them by small but noticable margin. Ill try them again after a significant Volumio or raspian update.

 

Took about 10 days to get. Compared to the Mutec MC-1.2., I think the Xmos xu208 sounds better and is less than half the price. It made a significant difference to the sound signature of the Gungnir Multibit. Retains the resolution and to me sounds amazingly close to vinyl. Seems better going to bnc vs. analog input. From what I read the xmos outputs directly to wordclock of the Gungnir Multibit. Aside from going from pc soundcard to an external dac, this has been one of the most significant upgrades. I'm curious to see if it makes a difference with Bifrost Multibit and Modi 2 uber. Will try those next.

 

where did you find the driver for the xu208?

 

http://www.mediafire.com/download/jma92ool3p16q3p/Singxer-USB-Audio-Class2-Driver_v3.20.0.exe

 

I am set to do a comparison this week of various reclocker setups and setups and will report back, if people are interested. The biggest drawback may be the poor power i am feeding into the Rpi. In a preliminary test, my PC running through USB to the Mutec 3+ sounds much better, less grainy, with more depth. You can hear it immediately. The second is that a couple of pieces I have at home are out for repair, and these differences are easily noticed with more transparent speaker setups.

 

That guy don't know what Prism 8xr with its 1394 interface is, he's chasing him own shadow and he thinks that all the truth are all in his hands.

 

My perspective:

1. Some DAC's need to improve their USB inputs or just use some of the excellent third party boards. There are many DAC's where USB is the best sounding input. If that is the case I would try to replace the USB input.
2. The source still matters. Computers are not hifi sources. There are some ways to improve computers for use with hifi, but there is a lot of ground to cover.
3. Jamming a bunch of magical fix-it devices to try and fix deficiencies after the fact in not the way to go IMO. Identify and fix the problem directly.
4. The main strength of computers is convenience, low cost, DRC/digital filtering and high res recordings.

 

Recently there has been a growing interest in an ethernet to digital audio converter.
The one that has garnered the most interest is the RedNet 3.

It is a pro audio device and isn't focused upon our hi-end audio needs but some of the reports thus far are Most encouraging.
It bypasses USB completely, with comments such as 'You'll wonder why you put up with USB for so long…'

I figure it won't take much time before a 2 channel device is made available and the price drops accordingly.

JJ