Comments on Profile Post by purr1n

  1. ufospls2
    ufospls2
    Because, sadly, it seems that cooler heads are not going to prevail (on both sides,) and inflammatory statements continue to be made publicly, like pic related. https://imgur.com/a/JSJDsP5
    Oct 6, 2022
  2. ufospls2
    ufospls2
    I've been feeling similarly to you, for the last couple weeks. Even during the cold war (including the cuban missile crisis) the language being used publicly by figures of authority was not what we have seen over the last month or so. Also, it seems as if no one (general public wise) believes it can happen, which makes me feel it is more likely to.
    Oct 6, 2022
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  3. crenca
    crenca
    The "triumphant" west has this belief - best represented by Bolton and the like, that you can back a wounded animal into a corner and it won't bite you. It's ideological (e.g. its about Putin and not the Russian character itself which is pure fantasy) and it's ahistorical.
    Oct 6, 2022
  4. crenca
    crenca
    Truth is, for waging a proxy war against Russia in Ukraine, we "deserve" to be bloodied. I hope it will only be something dramatic, maybe the nuking of a few aircraft carrier groups...but it could be a lot worse.
    Oct 6, 2022
  5. GuySmiley'sMonkey
    GuySmiley'sMonkey
    Putin is a narcissistic, megalomaniacal fascist, hell bent on leaving the legacy of a restored Russian empire. I think he'd do just about anything to avoid losing face. Dark times ahead, economically and existentially. I'm just glad my family lives on the other side of the world.
    Oct 6, 2022
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  6. crenca
    crenca
    Guy, I know nothing in the American consciousness, your education and understanding of history, nor anything else leads you to any other conclusion then "it's all about Putin". Thing is this is wrong.
    Oct 6, 2022
  7. GuySmiley'sMonkey
    GuySmiley'sMonkey
    You've piqued my interest @crenca . Can you unpack this idea for me?
    Oct 6, 2022
  8. crenca
    crenca
    Try to think outside the box - about a people (both Russian's and Ukrainian - all Eastern Orthodox Slavic people for that matter) who do not believe in Lockean liberalism and individualism. Think about "Kievan Rus" and what it means to identity and destiny in that part of the world. Think about how history shows us it's never about one man (e.g. how we falsely reduce WII Germany to "Hitler").
    Oct 6, 2022
  9. GuySmiley'sMonkey
    GuySmiley'sMonkey
    Yep. There's some wisdom right there relating to a collective consciousness that's foreign to me. When I was learning German in High School we read a book called "Die Welle" ("The Wave") set in a school where a social experiment went wrong and basically set up a microcosmic parallel to Nazi Germany. Leaders require followers, through fear, likemindedness or both.
    Oct 6, 2022
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  10. Maven86
    Maven86
    @crenca sounds like a very "constrained vision" of the world. I'm sure Sowell et all would be sympathetic. On the other hand, a lot of my neighbors here in DC, many of whom call the shots, operate from a different paradigm.
    Oct 6, 2022
  11. Thad E Ginathom
    Thad E Ginathom
    @crenca...

    Sorry, but even if we do think about all that stuff, it isn't going to save us from *Putin.*

    And maybe the "west's" ego is so huge, some of it can't bear to think there is stuff happening which it may not have caused. People may talk, or not talk, about "proxy war" but whatever.... Putin still walked into Ukraine.

    Talk is talk. Putin is Putin.
    Oct 7, 2022
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  12. Priidik
    Priidik
    I wouldn't worry about CCCP nukes finding their way to US soil. Europe, maybe.
    Here in Estonia (and other boarder countries), while not strategically that relevant, the threat of Russian mass diarrhea weaponry is quite real.
    More serious would be the escalation to global conflict, nuclear or otherwise. That would be really bad.
    Oct 7, 2022
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  13. Priidik
    Priidik
    What they threaten with which might be able to go past totl USA / NATO defences is likely just propaganda. And what, USA and NATO have sat technologically idle for 30 years as well? Probably not because of Iran and China etc.
    Oct 7, 2022
  14. Priidik
    Priidik
    Remember how pissed Kreml got when the ABM systems were activated in Poland to guard NATO countries from Iran missles? No point getting upset, when your own weaponry would be immune to that.
    Oct 7, 2022