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  1. bixby
    bixby
    And a few other ways to rip as well. Serious nervosa in the day led me to test & hear not much difference when using a number of rippers.
    Dec 31, 2022
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  2. MellowVelo
    MellowVelo
    I used dBpoweramp to rip my entire CD collection years ago. It’s a solid program, especially because it confirms the accuracy of your rips in the AccurateRip database. May I suggest trying FLAC Uncompressed instead of WAV? FLAC files have superior tagging capability. In my experience, metadata is often lost or corrupted with WAV files.
    Jan 1, 2023
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  3. nedmanjo
    nedmanjo
    I've used EAC as well, nice program! dBpoweramp was simply easier to use.
    Jan 1, 2023
  4. nedmanjo
    nedmanjo
    Isn't FLAC always compressed? From low (1) to high (8)?
    Jan 1, 2023
  5. MellowVelo
    MellowVelo
    FLAC also has an uncompressed option. The data is uncompressed, just like WAV. The advantage of FLAC is its superior tagging capability. For WAV files, the metadata is "attached" to the file, but for FLAC files, the metadata is stored within the file. Metadata is much more reliable with FLAC. With WAV files, the metadata has a tendency to become lost or corrupted. Just a suggestion.
    Jan 1, 2023
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  6. nedmanjo
    nedmanjo
    I'm looking at the audio properties of wav files and they seem detailed. What additional information would I put in the metadata of a FLAC file and why?
    Jan 1, 2023
  7. MellowVelo
    MellowVelo
    The difference is not what information is stored; WAV and FLAC can store the same metadata. The difference is how the metadata is stored. For WAV files, the metadata is “attached” to the WAV file; that is to say, the metadata is actually stored in a separate file. For FLAC files, the metadata is embedded within the FLAC file itself. The bottom line is that you’re more likely to lose your metadata with WAV files.
    Jan 1, 2023
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  8. Thad E Ginathom
    Thad E Ginathom
    WAV is ancient, and microsoft had a hand in it. Yes, I'm prejudiced.

    FLAC uncompressed... but why? The point is that it is *lossless*
    Jan 1, 2023
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  9. nedmanjo
    nedmanjo
    Like I may have mentioned, I'm a complete novice. I've read that compressed audio files require decompression and as such require on-the-fly use of the CPU during play back which may add jitter to the audio. I've also read that storage is cheap, which is true, and as such, why compress at all? Hence my efforts to go lossless uncompressed and wav seemed like the right choice.
    Jan 1, 2023
  10. nedmanjo
    nedmanjo
    I was unaware that flac could write uncompressed but I also read that flac has limited bit-depth and sample rate as compared to wav. Given the gear I have it's unlikely I could discern between one format or another, but I'd like to avoid re-ripping these CD's. Perhaps I'll read more before committing more hours. Thanks!
    Jan 1, 2023
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  11. MellowVelo
    MellowVelo
    It’s true that compressed files will require more on-the-fly CPU usage, although I’m not sure that this really makes a difference for sound quality. That said, I use FLAC Uncompressed because it satisfies my audio nervosa. As you said, storage is cheap.
    Jan 1, 2023
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  12. MellowVelo
    MellowVelo
    For bit depth and sample rate, FLAC will give you everything you realistically need. I don’t know what the upper limit is, but FLAC handles at least 24-bit/192KHz files, which covers like 99.9% of the music commercially available.
    Jan 1, 2023
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  13. nedmanjo
    nedmanjo
    I really appreciate the discussion. Thanks for taking the time to chat.
    Jan 1, 2023
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  14. MellowVelo
    MellowVelo
    My pleasure. Glad you’re here and diving deeper into the hobby.
    Jan 1, 2023
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  15. Thad E Ginathom
    Thad E Ginathom
    IIRC, the different compression levels in FLAC do indeed require more or less computer processing to both compress and uncompress. This is my point of view:

    Don't bother to massively compress unless you really are working with a tiny finite storage. But don't use uncompressed just because of nervosa. The default setting, whatever that is, is probably fine.

    ...
    Jan 2, 2023
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  16. Thad E Ginathom
    Thad E Ginathom
    ...


    Storage is cheap --- until you are buying it! When "cheap" becomes entirely relative. Especially if you buy fast HDDs.

    Even fast HDDs are not necessary for music. It plays from slow-slow-slow optical drives (CD, DVD, etc)! But they do keep the whole machine sprightly.
    Jan 2, 2023
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