Drop x Sennheiser HD8XX (final tuning)

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  1. Woland

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    He's deleted the tweet.

    A new tweet seems to correct it "I confirmed from Sennheiser yesterday there is another change to the rear-damping. So [removing the tape] wouldn’t *completely* reverse the 8XX’s modifications [from the 800s]."
    https://twitter.com/dms3tv/status/1435667743077019648

    I appreciate that Sennheiser were forthcoming. Could have been messier.

    In general, I don't think we should be an echo-chamber for youtubers. Posting this just bc he has access to a HD8xx and Sennheiser.
     
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    Given the new characteristics of the 8xx will it pair well with a schiit jot 1 (in balanced)?
     
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    This DMS guy really rubs the wrong way. He didn't do his research, made this outlandish claim, doesn't share his claimed measurements and doesn't 'fess up afterwards. Really sloppy.

    Th HD8xx main thread is pretty clear about the actual modifications: "The tuning, reduction in 6khz resonance, and decreased distortion of the 8XX are achieved via changes to the damping scheme of the housing and changes to the driver."
    https://drop.com/buy/drop-sennheiser-hd-8xx-headphones/talk/2830071
     
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    I know a good location for tape when it comes to some youtubers...
     
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    The answers you seek are directly above your earlier post

     
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    What a fucking spoiled entitled dickhead. Like biting the hand that feeds you. While I do feel that reviewers, myself included, should be given as much independence and leeway as possible to freely express our thoughts, there are certain things which I feel cross the line into impropriety. DMS could have simply asked the folks at Drop. There are certain protocols, certain gentlemen's agreements, that go with this kind of stuff. What's worse is that DMS, having no technical background, was wrong. What's wrong with people these days? I guess such is the YouTube world.

    If DMS purchased the unit himself, he can do and say WTF he wants to do or say. But he didn't.
     
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    His Twitter bio: "Audio Engineer turned into a headphone nerd."
     
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    I believe he works for Abyss too.

    He was wrong about tweeting out the tape stuff, which he admitted to. He should have spoken to drop and asked them what physical changes they made first. He did however clearly say in his video review that he was wrong and told the audience exactly what physical modifications drop made to the 8xx.
     
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    LOL, Drop can't win. The prior version wasn't different enough and the final version did too much.

    Just buy a Lokius and push up 2kHz.
     
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    he is about as much of an audio engineer as any college student with JBLs and a focusrite in their bedroom can claim to be
     
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    How do big metal piercings in your ear affect resonance and the general FR? They must do some funky shit. Also, this guy has 65k subscribers. What is happening
     
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    1. atleast be a gentlemen and dont say words like dickhead
    2. I really dont care about anything, its DMS perspective in audio
    3. i tried HD8xx and its seriously not good(Senn office is 5mins walking from my home)

    over and out
    not being on any side, but the old statement about tuning of HD8xx, Drop and Senn should have sticked on the old claim on boosting a bit of bass and damping bit of 6k
     
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    fuck off and die.

    I don't care about his perspective either; but it's not really about that. If you are privy for a review loaner, being honest about what you think is fine and should be expected. Taking shit apart to "expose" Drop for supposedly using "cheap" techniques (and being wrong) so that you can get more YT viewers - that's shitty dickhead behavior.

    If you are going to reply and make a counterpoint, at least respond to what I actually said instead of what you think I said. Literacy is your friend fuckhead. Oh, wait, you didn't read back in the thread to understand the context of what was going on. You just read one post and decided to reply because your self-righteous indignation couldn't stop you from doing so.
     
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    I'm going to reset the discussion here because @Vtory made an important point. I wish people would be more intelligent and connect the dots like this instead of caring who said what:

    Vtory Crin and DMS's disapproval paradoxically makes hd8xx very promising. Cause their preference is often reverse-predictive of mine.
    Now let's take another data point which I think is very important in the context of my review here:

    Both @Crinacle and I (and @shotgunshane, @rhythmdevils, etc.) give the Gaudio Nair an A+ for tonal signature. There's common ground there. There's stuff that Crin likes which I don't like, and vice versa. But there's also common ground. Now if we examine more data points, we can start figuring out where the divergences lie:

    Brighter (> 2kHz) than Nair, Crin will be OK with it, I will not.
    More laid-back (upper mid-dip) than Nair, I will be OK with it, Crin will not.​

    It's a bit more complex than this, but those statements are generally true. Knowing stuff like this, and triangulating and calibrating to your own tastes with other gear, opinions now become x10 more helpful to a reader in making a purchase decision. There's no disconnect really. There's only data points and how we use them.

    P.S. This is why in general, I dislike folks posting links to YT or outside reviews. It's because it's done in a way to stir up shit rather than have an intelligent discussion to understand the "dissonance". I'll keep repeating this: I've been doing this for a long long time, running meets big and small. People hear the same way, but they have different preferences.
     
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    A bit surprised they let him take apart a pre-release, blab about it publicly, put out wrong info, etc...

    On a diff note, DMS and all these other fake "influencers" need to disappear... wasted 5min of my morning trying to watch his video only to realize he was babbling on and on about nothing of any significance. Why can't we just go back in time 30 years to where influencers were mostly the geniuses, superstars, actual experts/pioneers, and other captains of their industries.
     
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    No offense to DMS as I got nothing against the guy, but his ears are a joke. He is a total noob and no different than Zeos. Just watch his reviews. At least I find Zeos more enterntaining. And he has a cute cat.
     
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