Dummies Guide to Pi2AES! Throw away your PC or laptop.

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  1. YMO

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    Can be if using Coax.
     
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    HA! You’re right I forgot to switch back to my Gungnir so it was Coax to RDAC. With BNC it doesn’t happen. Is that really normal for the Pi2AES and coax output?
     
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    Maybe. I don't get that problem on my other PI2AES setup Coax to BF2 since it's on a living room table that doesn't move that much at all. On my computer desk with my RDAC, I was getting Coax audio dropouts from both the Eitr and the PI2AES. To solve this problem I just use Toslink PI2AES to RDAC. Yeah it's Toslink, but it's for my computer desk and sounds great since source is great.
     
  4. Michael Kelly

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    That might be the pins not cut. Take a look and let me know.
     
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    The problem can also be the case... the diameter of the hole for the RCA out is a little tight and some RCA cables (eg., BJC have issues) don't firmly seat on the jack. Then when it gets bumped, it loses the connection.

    You can either play musical cables to find one that fits better, or ream out the hole in the case a few millimeters.
     
  6. YMO

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    I took your title of being a lazy ass and just use Toslink. I'm super lazy, lol.
     
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    Can you explain for dummies? This is the dummies thread :)
     
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    An update on my problem with no output on the bnc or rca jacks. It turns out to be a problem with the pi2aes not being compatible with my cord hugo dac. I tried the bnc output with an old enlighten audio design dac and it played. I know the hugo needed a driver to work with windows and i am not sure if it is the same with volumio. I guess i could try the optical out although the optical is not the best interface. Now if i could only figure out why the pi is not recognizing my harddrive. I tried on 2 different powered harddrive docks with no luck. Ah the joys of audio.
     
  9. Michael Kelly

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    Any incompatibility is strictly electrical, not software. The code running on the pi has no idea what DAC is attached to the PI2AES. Unlike USB there is no software configuration for the various outputs. They are simply all on at the same time.
     
  10. Michael Kelly

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    The output connectors on the PI2AES are soldered to the board and sit just above the USB and ethernet jacks of the pi. Some of the the pins come through the printed circuit board longer than usual and can make contact with them. We trim this pins at the factory. But, since this is a hand operation it is always possible that one board was not cut when it was supposed to.
     
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    Could it then be an voltage problem as you had described earlier? Does the xlr output a higher voltage? I have an rca to xlr adapter or should i try the optical output? The strange thing is when i had the digi+ it had worked.
     
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    Have you tried the BNC output from the PI2AES?
     
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    I have tried the bnc output which does not work. My last options is to try the xlr via rca to xlr adapter or optical output.
     
  14. Michael Kelly

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    At this point I will send you another unit to test. Please send me an email, [email protected] to get this going.
     
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    Thanks for the offer Mike but no need for that. The problem seems to be an incompatibility between the pi2aes and the hugo - not your fault. I tried the optical out on the pi2aes and the hugo and it works. As i mentioned earlier the rca out of the pi2aes worked on my EAD dac and the xlr output works on my meitner dac. I also resolved the problem with my hard drive not being detected by the unit. I use a pi3 and found out that it does not detect usb3 , I had an older usb 2 hard drive dock and this works.
     
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    My second Pi2AES doesn’t cut out the coaxial connection when flicked or tapped so it must be the Pi2AES. (Email sent to headquarters so no worries @Michael Kelly)

    Pangea SE coaxial cables are a great fit with the Pi2AES. They have an indentation at the end of the RCA jack that allows them to fit nicely.

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    ^Hey, RD...I just gave my unit a noogie while listening to test.
    Even discharged some static on the amp underneath while tapping and messing with it.
    I am using a flexible COAX cable to DAC. (I have a couple of good COAX cables that are so stiff I need to knock out a wall to use them.)
    While listening to Cannonball Adderley on an attached USB hard drive, didn't skip a beat.
    So it might be the pin issue that Michael mentioned? Good luck!
     
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    yeah I think so. Thanks for checking! That's 2/3 that don’t cut out. At least I won’t have to configure moode again (suicide smiley)
     
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    After a great start with entering the world of DLNA/UPnP streaming I am a little annoyed now.

    The setup I want to use doesn't work anymore*: Audirvana+ on Windows with Sonarworks VST-plugin streaming to RoPieeeXL.

    What I have found out:
    • disabling the VST plugin makes it work
    • with enabled VST plugin Volumio works, but RopieeeXL and moOde don't
    • Foobar2000 can stream to all three with the VST plugin enabled
    The RopieeeXL developer is great, he already pushed out three beta versions to make it work for me, but to me it seems to be an Audirvana+ issue. But they say that it's the different UPnP implementations by the others...

    *didn't work with moOde when I first tried and stopped working with RoPieeeXL after an update of the latter
     
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    Try DietPi and see if it works better
     

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