Mr. Speakers AEON

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  1. gbeast

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    @Hands measurements show them forward in the upper mids and that is how Hands hears them. That is why when I got them in and couldn't hear this forwardness in the upper midrange, I was confused because I follow along with him pretty well. I believe you and also am not sure what discs etc these have on them.

    Truthfully speaking I didn't hear a huge dip in the upper midrange, I just didn't hear them forward and a little relaxed. Then after seeing them measured in front of me and listening to some guitars on it compared to the AR H1 I thought what was measured matched what I heard with that dip there.
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    Either way it is not as the Elear so I fixed my post above and still sounds within the bounds of what I think is acceptable for me to enjoy them a lot.
     
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    Hands's measurements look kinda weird compared to Jude/Marv/Tyll etc. I don't trust them quite as much.

    Still though it does surprise me he finds the upper midrange forward, especially being so used to the HD650, which i find to have a pretty aggressive sounding upper midrange compared to a lot of headphones.

    It could be that we just have different opinions of what an upper midrange is. Some people view it as 4-6khz. Some view it as 2-4khz. Some categorize it as 2-6khz. I only categorize it as 2-4khz.
     
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    Makes a lot of sense
     
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    Well, my measurements do use my own head and ears, since the mic sits flush with the opening of my ear canal. So they're bound to look different than a dummy head and different methods, including compensation curves, for a myriad of reasons. You gotta learn how to read each measurement setup and be very familiar with their methods.

    My hunch is that someone with very different ears than my own, in a physical sense, might hear certain headphones differently, depending on how the headphone interacts with those sorts of changes. i.e. I'm sure my mic on someone else's head would show different measurements, and I'd bet at least $1 that it translates to them hearing it differently too due to that being their own sort of "room" environment inside the headphone. (Stuff like fit and seal matters too, obviously, and even hair can affect what we hear in that regard.)

    Upper midrange for me is usually 1-4KHz as a generalization. A/Bing the AFO and HD650, without front damping on the former, exhibits a very, very distinct "shout" on the AFO relative to the HD650 around 1-3KHz. I've heard it before on headphones like the Elear/Utopia or even the HD600 to an extent. With specific music, usually rock or metal, it stands out like a sore thumb to me.

    Now, circle back to what I said earlier, and that means not everyone will necessarily hear it the same way, possibly due to their physical head/ear characteristics, age, and/or what they listen to to judge headphones. I think it's just something we have to accept and reconcile when reading other impressions. Best to get a feel for what/how someone hears and hope they have consistency in that so you can mentally calibrate yourself against what they say. Sometimes it just doesn't work.

    One reason I like the HD650 is that it's relatively balanced throughout the entire midrange, up till about 5KHz, relative to almost any other headphone out there. But some hear the HD600 as more accurate, and some like neither.
     
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    I am not sure I understand. In the adapter like this two "-" wires of TRRS, or 4 pin XLR, are connected to the TRS common ground. If this is a dual mono amp it would just short two channels, wouldn't it?
     
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    Out of curiosity can you give your opinion on the two, where the 650 is standard with no mods?
     
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    Yes, that adapter can only be used with some amps. It could damage others...
     
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    And it will short two channels of any balanced, dual mono amp possibly damaging it.
     
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    On a first listen these closed aeons sound like a more linear ether c or something. Where is the bass, why is it bright and lean? I don't mind less bass than the Aeon Open but this is bass light. I don't know what is going on with all these pads and retuning etc so I'll probably spend an hour with it here and there and send it off. No real impressions from me on this one because I don't know if this is what it's supposed to sound like. At least its not veiled.
     
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    Yeah, that's pretty much what they sound like. The filter/inserts or whatever you want to call them help a little bit.
     
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    Bass Lite? I respectfully disagree. Not a bass monster, certainly, but I don't feel that the bass is inadequate. Just my 2 cents.

    Driving my Aeon Closed from a DX200.
     
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    Make sure you are getting an absolutely perfect seal. This means no glasses, no hair, and a perfectly shaped head. :) (Seriously though on the glasses thing)
     
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    The more I read about the AFO, the more the claim that it's one of the best sub $1k headphones out there if not the best gets thrown around. Is this hype close to the reality?


    I got a chance to try it at a store but without really comparing it to much other than the 660s, I'm still on the fence.

    I remember the HE-500 when it came out blew the competition away for sound, especially at it's price. I'm wondering if these actually fill a similar role.
     
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    Best is completely subjective, but I think the Aeons are the headphones that get most aspects about a headphone mostly right.
     
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    Totally agree about the subjectivity part. And I think that was the same with HE-500 back in the day. Seems the only thing lacking with the AFO is the expansive air that some of the other high end headphones have. Ugh who knew spending money was so tricky :p
     
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    Heard these for the first time this morning!

    Pretty good! Probably the best Mr. Speakers headphone I have heard (I haven’t heard the Ether Flow Open.) Comfort and fit was a bit weird at first, but decent enough after getting used to it. With all that being said, at their current price, I feel like you could get a better sounding headphone for less money. This is totally dependant on your preferences of course.

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    That is the Aeon Flow open no?
     
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    Name a better performer below $800 new? Genuinely curious.
     
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    +1. If there is a better sounding headphone for the same (or less) money I would like to know.
     
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    Yes

    Depends on your preferences. I prefer the Elear, which can be had for the same price. This morning I preferred the HE560, which I never thought would happen. I prefer the LCD-2C, which will be out in its new iteration really soon.
     

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