The Smoking Lounge (mainly cigars, but all tobacco welcome!)

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  1. Walderstorn

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    Yes @YMO UK but i live in Sweden.
     
  2. YMO

    YMO it's not drinking alone if you're on Zoom

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    Good news is the UK and the Scandinavia (Denmark) still have pipe tobacco makers that does really great work.

    Since he has a raspberry flavor blend then he currently has one aromatic blend. Aromatics are more popular in the US due to the easier to smoke flavor profile than an English/Virginia blend. Some stick to aromatics since it tastes sweet like candy. While I do like some aromatics, I mostly don't smoke them as much anymore.

    For starters since he is in the UK he should try to find something that is made in the UK: Samuel Gawith. These guys been in the game since the 18 century, and should be much easier to obtain than other blends. If I have to pick something that is "the Samuel Gawith blend," I would pick Squadron Leader. I never had any of the Samuel Gawith blends since they sell out quickly as soon as they hit with US tobacco retailers, but I have good things about Squadron Leader and it has a lighter flavor profile. Samuel Gawith makes other stuff as well, so I would recommend either have him research it on his own or perhaps he needs to locate a tobacconist that specialize in Pipe Tobacco. Now if you want to slightly kick it up a bit, there's always Samuel Gawith Full Virginia Flake which should have a more nicotine kick.

    UK is the home of the Dunhill blends, which since they got out of the Pipe Tobacco business they are now under Peterson's, which makes both Pipes and Tobacco. If your brother wants another non-flavor English blend that is light as goes well with coffee, I recommend the Peterson's Early Morning Pipe, which is a classic blend in the Pipe Tobacco world. If your brother has balls, I recommend down the road the Peterson's Nightcap (which I talked earlier in this thread), it's strong but smooth and great to have at night reading a book before bedtime.

    Since you are in Scandinavia, you have some of the big Pipe Tobacco makers in your backyard for the most part. The Scandinavian Tobacco Group pawns the production of Pipe Tobacco in this world with their Orlik and various blends, and they are the ones who make the Peterson's pipe tobacco on behalf of Peterson's. Orlik Dark Strong Kentucky is a little stronger blend for beginners but also on the sweet side which I like.

    My favorite Pipe Tobacco maker outside of the Scandinavian Tobacco Group cartel is actually Mac Baren in Denmark. Their HH Flakes series are fantastic from low strength to uber strong. They are also complex as well. The HH Pure Virginia should be the lowest powerful flavor of the bunch that is solid. If your brother gets into the game long enough, the HH Old Dark Fired is their best seller and for a good reason: It's dark flavor is complex and always a pleasure for the adventurous smoker.

    Would be hard to ship tobacco from your country to UK due to laws, so maybe your brother should locate a tobacconist who knows what the fuck they are doing and knows Pipe Tobacco, not just selling them.
     
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    Very much appreciated @YMO. I told him that talking with the local pipe mom/pop stores would be the best but this is Corona time and it's the UK so it's undoable for the time being so i suggested looking for chat groups, surely there must be several there. Either way we got good tips, thanks!
     
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  4. spwath

    spwath Collegiate hijinks master

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    I've only smoked cigars a few times, but I love the shop I go it in Hartford. The guy there actually knows what he is talking about, always recommends us something good. Just a good environment, last time I was there me and me friend randomly got in a 10 minute conversation with another guy there about pipe tobacco and other things.
    One weird experience: we were in the store, and some presumably homeless guy walks in, and says "I have 2 questions, and that's it. Who was the first black president?" And the worker/owner says "you know as well as I". The homeless guy then says "when was the first dollar made" and the shop owner says he doesn't know. The homeless guy thanks him, and leaves after asking his 2 questions, just like he said he would.
     
  5. YMO

    YMO it's not drinking alone if you're on Zoom

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    Like any social place, you never know who you might bump into. I was at my local shop on C. Eve and I bump into a professional Pipe Maker who just recently moved from CA to FL. Being surprised that someone like him who is local is an understatement.

    Also at my local shop we even have VIPs who walk in to get a box or two of cigars.
     
  6. YMO

    YMO it's not drinking alone if you're on Zoom

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    Good day today. Hard frost in the morning with t-shirt/shorts weather in the afternoon. Got some bacon to cook it at home, deathstroke'd the GF pretty good, beer in the morning, and enjoyed an afternoon smoke. Look at how bad I am in photos while holding a good Corn Cob smoking some stuff:

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    This post will be two things:

    1. Still smoke a Corn Cob:

    I was talking to @ChaChaRealSmooth or @penguins about pipes when one of their local tobacco store had these men who told one of them that corn cobs pipes suck and you must get a briar pipe or a meerschaum pipe for the best blah blah blah.

    First I will admit a few flaws of corn cob pipes:
    • They have a limited life due to a corn cob will have its bowl burnt out.
    • They don't always smoke well.
    • They do introduce a little "sweetness" to the smoke.

    Next I will point out the benefits of corn cob pipes:
    • Inexpensive
      • Great for beginners who don't know if they want to do pipe tobacco or not since most corn pipes are about $10 or so dollars or less on average. Good briar pipes can start around $50ish up until the sky is your limit.
    • Can take a beating if you smoke them hard too much.
      • They can get hot which will reduce the life of the bowl, but will still smoke.
    • Due to being a corn cob, it reduce moister in the pipe.
      • I never smoke a pipe with a pipe filter, which while it will catch the moister it will kill the flavor IMO. This also helps on aromatic blends.
    • They do introduce a little "sweetness" to the smoke.
      • Smoking a really bold/strong blend? A corn cob can help reduce the flavor profile a bit but not too much to the point that it ruins the smoke.
    Anyone who might even have any little interest in pipe tobacco should first start off with a corn cob pipe. Get a box of matches, then get a cheap Made in China "Czech" Pipe Tool and a really basic aromatic blend and you are ready to go. On average you are looking at $20-$30 for everything depending if you are ordering online, living in a state with high tax on pipe tobacco and restricts online sales on pipe tobacco in general (WA, ME, MA, UT, etc.).

    If you want to get a corn cob pipe, better get one from Missouri Meerschaum (while their name is Meerschaum, they don't make real Meerschaum pipes). Do not get any Made in China corn cob pipe, they suck donkey nuts.

    Missouri Meerschaum been around for over 100 years I believe. Here's a famous pic of a famous user of a corn cob you bums should know by now:

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    Fun fact: If you want the MacArthur pipe, get them here. If you have an aromatic blend fetish, this pipe will work well since the smoke travels farther to the mouthpiece, which reduce tongue bite. The pipe that I have on my picture is this one, which is the General (much less distance than the MacArthur but still longer than usual).

    Solid quality for the price, good burn quality (but not to the level of a higher end briar pipe), and a classic look, you can't go wrong with Missouri Meerschaum.

    As a pipe tobacco snob I have various briar pipes that are in the $$$ range. However, I will always enjoy smoking from a corn cob pipe since it is a different take of the pipe tobacco hobby, and it is a piece of America. Fuck the haters they are a bunch of virgins.

    2. Review Time

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    The Cornell & Diehl Mississippi Mud was the blend that I was smoking earlier in my picture. As the name said, it taste like "mud." Ok ok ok I kid, it taste like a little bit of mud with an earthy taste. Ok ok ok, it is a mix of Latakia (Smokey flavor), Perique (leathery flavor with maybe a little zest, hard to tell) and Black Cavendish (tones down the Perique which is strong and add volume to the smoke).

    This looks like a mix for an aromatic blend, but this one is not. What you taste are the different flavors of the tobaccos working together. While the blend looks strong, it is only medium flavor profile so it won't really knock off your feet IMO. Since the taste has a more earthy quality, this one will not be a winner with everyone. I feel like smoking this when the FL rains past my apartment building, or when I'm sick of smoking my strong Kentucky stuff. I don't recommend smoking this everyday, but it is great on a rotation. Since this is not an aromatic blend, it doesn't burn too hot.

    If you have other blends and you smoke a certain style too much, perhaps the Mississippi might be what you need.
     
  7. YMO

    YMO it's not drinking alone if you're on Zoom

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    The Montecristo Espada that I referenced earlier in this thread does go nicely at an Euro Cafe that is walking distance from my apartment. Taken these photos last weekend:

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    Double Espresso and Perrier is $4.34 at my cafe place. Can't beat that.


    Was at my local Cigar/Pipe shop yesterday. They had some Estate (used) Pipes that were just introduce a day ago. Picked up some good deals, but too lazy to take a picture of what I obtained. Here's what they had in the glass:

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  8. YMO

    YMO it's not drinking alone if you're on Zoom

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    Alright virgins,

    today is International Pipe Smoking Day.

    Wiley Pipe from Tampa, FL
    Peter Stokkebye PS52 Proper English blend with added latakia

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    To celebrate IPSD, I took out my Claudio Cavicchi pipe and smoked a bowl of dunhill royal yacht. A bit strong for me for this bowl size, felt dizzy for the night.[​IMG]
     
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    YMO it's not drinking alone if you're on Zoom

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    Royal Yacht is one of the stronger tins from Peterson's (since Dunhill is officially out of the pipe tobacco game and STG/Peterson's purchased the recipes). This is due to the Royal Yacht being a Virgina focused blend. Virgina focused blends does hit you hard on nicotine, which is why I normally avoid them. I do fine if the Virginas aren't the focus on a blend.
     
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    Which is why I always smoke after a meal, nicotine hit is no joke. tobaccoreviews.com is also a good resource for how the smoke would be.
     
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    YMO it's not drinking alone if you're on Zoom

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    Agreed on both points. While I enjoy the Mac Baren HH Old Dark Fried, it is a heavier smoke to the point that the nicotine hit gets me in random points. Normally my smokes are the lighter to medium end of things. I don't need the really strong stuff, and help me if you are making me smoke a very heavy Virginia blend.
     
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