Comments on Profile Post by Vtory

  1. Vtory
    Vtory
    I was initially curious about this company because of unusual/experimental approaches. And quite a lot loyal fans. But.. wow. No way.

    And yup, this is exactly the same company refused to send demo unit to sbaf because our gears were too poor..
    Mar 25, 2022
  2. Vtory
    Vtory
    The same company, on the other hand, sponsored another yt reviewer. He said the same hp in question was *the best* he ever heard. The company *publicly* praised how wonderful job he made, even shooting a dedicated video saying so. No way.. no way.
    Mar 25, 2022
  3. Ksaurav402
    Ksaurav402
    May be they should list down hardware requirement in the website so that someone with “ obsolete” gear doesn’t buy their headphone by mistake.
    Could you link the video please
    Mar 25, 2022
  4. Ksaurav402
    Ksaurav402
    May be all we need is obsolete ears to like that headphone
    Mar 25, 2022
  5. Vtory
    Vtory
    Mar 25, 2022
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  6. Maven86
    Maven86
    I get the general sentiment of the Abyss rep, but in this case he went about it all wrong. 1. If Abyss was so particular about mismatch with their gear, they should mention some of that on their site before asking for money and bitching after the fact.
    Mar 25, 2022
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  7. Maven86
    Maven86
    2. Bad gear\review methodology aside, the reviewer was pretty tempered with his comments and made it pretty clear that it's a matter of subjective preference. The rep on the other hand pretty much ridiculed the reviewer and personally attacked his character unprovoked. IMO, he should have checked his tone, his ass should have been chewed out.
    Mar 25, 2022
  8. rhythmdevils
    rhythmdevils
    I knew this was about Abyss just reading the first post. What does that tell you about Abyss?
    Mar 25, 2022
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  9. roshambo123
    roshambo123
    Abyss is a helicopter parent, they won't let their child be put in any position where someone could disparage them. In other words, they're attempting to unfairly advantage themselves by making sure on average, more expensive chains are used to review their equipment.
    Mar 26, 2022
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  10. Gazny
    Gazny
    2022 models only
    Mar 26, 2022
  11. Raimei Templar
    Raimei Templar
    Abyss has a shitty reputation not shocked. The YT review community is horrible and this is a big part of why, if you dont blow smoke up the ass of every headphone you get manufactures wont give you any more review units or pull this kind of shit on you.
    Mar 26, 2022
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  12. Vtory
    Vtory
    My take: The morale of the whole story is (1) Abyss (at least Joe) is afraid of customer's negative feedback and (2) it's probably because they are NOT confident with the product they make. This is my personal interpretation regarding over-reaction in any area in general.
    Mar 26, 2022
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  13. Raimei Templar
    Raimei Templar
    He did liken it to the HD700 though which is the headphone lingo version of saying F*** your mother. Guess that rep couldnt let that horrific insult stand. Even that was soft though, should have said it was the Delta Air Complimentary Earphones of high end audio.
    Mar 26, 2022
  14. Maven86
    Maven86
    @Raimei Templar Completely missed that HD700 comment. Still not a fan of Abyss and that rep was still very unprofessional… But thems be fightin words.
    Mar 26, 2022
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  15. Thad E Ginathom
    Thad E Ginathom
    So obviously, Abyss should invade this guy's house with thermonuclear weapons, right? Totally justified, right?

    But seriously... Many, if not most Real Audiophiles are using tube amplifiers. And this guy dares talk about "obsolete?" I suppose he'd trash somebody's much loved superb system for being... old.
    Mar 26, 2022
  16. Thad E Ginathom
    Thad E Ginathom
    I have no bone in this dog (or ball in the carpark): not interested in Abyss, not interested in spending that much anyway (HD800 was alrady way over "reasonable!") But this story just triggered me!

    WTF... So what's changed in hifi over the decades? Not much. Mainly that, about 60 years ago, the cheaper stuff got better and better.

    Obsolete... my arse.

    LOL
    Mar 26, 2022
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  17. Merrick
    Merrick
    f**k Abyss
    Mar 26, 2022
  18. E_Schaaf
    E_Schaaf
    If any headphone doesn't sound decent from an amplifier that meets minimum power requirements, it's not a good headphone. If it's true that the transducer itself is the most important part of the chain for sound by several orders of magnitude, synergy shouldn't be a dealbreaker even if it is important. There I said it.
    Mar 26, 2022
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  19. Vtory
    Vtory
    Agreed. I am indeed under the impression some companies often abuse "synergy" and "break-in". Suboptimal pairing may not be ideal outcome. I can fully get it. But if such combo sound too bad, that implies critical design flaws imho (usually something wrong in fr).
    Mar 26, 2022
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  20. roshambo123
    roshambo123
    From what I gather synergy isn't what Abyss is concerned with, it's preventing their hp's from being discussed or heard on anything other than TOTL gear.
    Mar 26, 2022
  21. rhythmdevils
    rhythmdevils
    They’re just concerned about negative reviews and they’re such snobs about their headphones that if anyone dislikes them they blame the upstream gear publicly. It’s pathetic.
    Mar 26, 2022
  22. JeremiahS
    JeremiahS
    It's a great shame because the Diana TC are actually excellent headphones that are tuned quite tastefully as well. I actually prefer them over the similarly priced LCD-5, in terms of both sound and construction. The company rep could be a little more gentle in their approach.
    Mar 27, 2022
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