DAP discussion thread

Discussion in 'IEMs and Portable Gear' started by zerodeefex, Oct 8, 2015.

  1. likearake

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    The Cayin N6ii DAP has an R2R switchable motherboard option thing (the R01 I think). Android based but not sure which version... could be quite old by now.
     
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    It predates the RU-6. I was curious if they might be working on something new given the popularity of the RU-6. I bet they are. ;)
     
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    I have a Sony WM1AM2 with me (they seriously need to get better naming convention)

    Will post first impressions soon. Thankfully it sounds much better than the ZX507 which was a little underwhelming, but with the Hiby RS6 it might get a little heated.
     
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    First impressions dump on the new Sony WM1AM2:

    It's good - it's a refined ZX2 and much improved ZX507 essentially. Gone is the slight rough edge/treble dirt from the older s-master chip DAPs - it's a very pleasing, clear and delicate sound with a dollop of warmth and smoothness, but not overwhelming. The mids have a very pleasing quality to them, organic and euphoric but also detailed and happy to either step back or jump forward depending on the track. The Hiby RS6 has forever forward mids which get a bit much.
    Anyone who enjoyed the old ZX2 should love this one, it's just much better I think across the board.

    It sounds great with Andromeda/IERM7, very good synergy - just makes them come alive somehow more so than a lot of my other sources - the mids essentially gain focus and glow, not in a forward way but in a detailed attention grabbing pleasant organic way.. difficult to describe.. there's probably some DSP happening here, but if it sounds great who cares.
     
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    Does the USB dac part still have lag? I hope they would fix it after so many years
     
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    Oh yes there's lag, like 99% of DAPs out there. I doubt this will ever get improved, it's my pet peeve with DAPs
     
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    These two bullets from the specs seem, errrrm, interesting?
    • Vinyl Processor: Add the warmth of vinyl into digital files by reproducing low-frequency resonance, tone-arm resistance, and surface noise
    • DC Phase Linearizer: Six phase character settings replicate the sonic signatures of various types of analog amplifiers for a purer, analog-like sound
    Either way, I'd love to get a chance to audition this, as my old NW-ZX2 is a brick and I really miss it. sniffle.
     
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    They have these things in all their players now. They're very subtle but do make some difference.

    I used to ❤️ my ZX2, it was and still is the ultimate companion for Andromedas. Yes the WM1AM2 is a big improvement but it's also a massive brick now. I like the small but dense feel of the older gen
     
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    Haha I meant ZX2 is a brick as in, unsupported ancient Android OS, and the battery won't barely hold a charge anymore. Anyhow, looking forward to more impressions of the new AM2.
     
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    Still not bit-perfect audio if using other music apps (UAPP) and not the Sony app? It is 2022 and the other Sony DAPs not supporting bit-perfect when using third-party apps is a shocker.
     
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    It's bitperfect with UAPP apparently, but not other third party apps. This is good enough for me as UAPP has Qobuz integration. Apple music is not bitperfect on the other hand and it does feel like there is some degradation as it goes through Android os mixer, 192khz or not..
     
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    After almost 200 hours burn, I'm preferring the sound of the ifi Gryphon - the WM1AM2 seems to be little too bright and has a little grain in the treble still. The Gryphon sounds more organic, warmer with mids being more lifelike and musical - it also has a more safe tuning allowing me to listen for much longer without fatigue.. at times it may lean towards a bit boring, but I think I prefer that to excitement and fatigue. Don't get me wrong the WM1AM2 is much improved over the ZX2/ZX507, but for the amount it costs I wanted to be blown away by lifelike smooth, organic and grain free sound - which the Gryphon seems to give more of.

    So, unless you really need a DAP or have an Andromeda, ifi Gryphon + LDAC phone is the safer option, especially if you prefer smooth, organic and grain free presentation (but not warmpoo)
     

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