Yes, now that I have listened a bit longer I am hearing a bit of bass bloat and muddiness in the R-2R. I would even say there is a bit of bass to mid bleed and congestion, perhaps responsible for vocal f&ckery some report. A/Bing between Gun MB ad R-2R, straining to hear difference in detail, especially 500hz up. I think I do...Maybe my Asgard 3 is limiting here. Will try Bachelor later...wish I had Starlett in house already.