SBAF DAC Talk II

Discussion in 'Digital: DACs, USB converters, decrapifiers' started by Maxx134, Jul 22, 2018.

  1. purr1n

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    Yeah. I did not like Eitr with either Convert-2 or Solaris DACs. Eitr seems to play with the Gungnir A2 best depending upon the sound you want. I use CD transports most of the time and only use Eitr if I can't find a CD.
     
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    Stuff moved to DAC Talk II thread here.

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    Oh wow, we are actually able to have a discussion about DACs, comparing notes with shit we actually have in our hands, without interruption from the village idiot.
     
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    I agree, there's not even second guessing. Metrum USB is pretty terrible from my Jade as well.
     
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    I am pleasantly surprised at how nice the new Bifrost Multibit sounds. I have paired it with my Lyr 3 in my office nearfield setup and it replaced the original Modi Multibit and Eitr combination.

    The first thing I noticed was that it was not as strident. This is the first time I have listened to the first movement of "Scheherazade" with Fritz Reiner conducting CSO (24/176.4) on my office setup with it not sounding all congested. Jethro Tull "Thick as a Brick" sounds much cleaner in the mid range and bottom end without sounding bright.

    I am very pleased overall.
     
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    The new "A2" one right?
     
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    @winders what speakers are you using in the office?
     
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    I assume it is. I just received it new from Schiit yesterday. It’s not B stock either.
     
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    Swan M200 Marklll powered monitors and HD650 headphones. I am using a Sylvania 6SN7GT from 1953 (a real “Bad Boy”) in the Lyr 3.
     
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    Ever think of trying another DDC?
    The new Gustard U16 can be had for under $300 & has the newest USB implementation from ESS.
     
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    A couple of people I trust say the Matrix Audio X-SPDIF 2 is better than the Gustard or the Singxer.

    https://matrix-digi.com/en/products/314.html
     
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    Nice that it has AES out
     
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    Was it the old or new Gustard?
    The U16 was just released 2+ months ago.
     
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    Both, actually.
     
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    I have little interest in USB devices. However, anyone should feel free to contact Matrix on SBAF's behalf to get a loaner or review unit. I've liked Matrix stuff in the past.
     
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    I can send you a loaner for the U16 if you want to do some measurements. A lot of people on the Head-fi thread saying they're liking it over their modded Singxer SU-1. Though I only have 8 hours on it & it is not even close to being fully burned in yet.
     
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    Can you really get much for useful measurements from these DDCs?
     
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    The measurement rig required would need a rubidium time source or the equivalent. I’m not sure any SBAFer has such a setup.

    EDIT: interesting article here on the limitations of external clocks. Note also the author is simply evaluating frequency response of monotones to attempt to infer jitter issues.
     
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    Ive seen comments that the Gungnir MB requires an extended warm up time (as in days) to sounds its best, does this apply to all MB DACs, like the Modi MB for example?
     
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    All multi-bit DACs need time for temperature to stabilize, but the Modi Multibit warms up much quicker than Yggdrasil, probably due to the small chassis.
     
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    Yes. See link for one example: DDC warm up time technical measurements

    FS725 Rubidium + LiveClock disciplining a DDC to Modi MB: System Synergy - Special Sound
     
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