Vorlon has zero EQ

Discussion in 'How to Win Friends and Influence People' started by Vorlon, Mar 1, 2018.

  1. Vorlon

    Vorlon self-important, pompous ass

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    I'm sorry, but maybe it's you who is acting a bit defensive? I don't care if someone feels a DAC/amp I'm interested in or use is garbage, but as I've understood the culture here all opinions (especially strong ones) should always come with arguments attached in the first place. Just posting that something is garbage and leaving it at that offers no informative value, it's noise not signal.

    The why part isn't something that anyone should have to separately ask for. That being said the original comment was a private correspondence that wasn't supposed to be publicly posted anyway, but your follow ups were in a style that would get random new accounts quickly banned as sorrodje pointed out. No big deal though, I do understand that more established members have more leeway.
     
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    purr1n Finding his inner redneck

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    1. I didn't post it asswipe.
    2. Only responded to people who were making up shit about what I might have thought about DS.
    3. No one asked me specifics.
    4. I'm a known quantity not a rando. It's very easy to get stuff out of me. No one tried except for @sorrodje.
     
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  3. Vorlon

    Vorlon self-important, pompous ass

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    I didn't say you did, just the opposite. Your replies after that leak should have included actual arguments/reasoning. They initially didn't and that was the issue. Like I said, I don't really care but the informative posting culture should apply to everyone.
     
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    purr1n Finding his inner redneck

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    See above post.

    "Informative posting culture should apply to everyone"

    Why da fuck it is always my responsibility? Fuck you! Do you really think I love to talk about audio all day? You members need to take fucking charge. I've done enough for you fuckers already. You guys are entitled to NOTHING from me. I'm not obligated to write a treatise on every piece of gear that I dislike.

    In this case, no one even asked.
     
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  5. Vorlon

    Vorlon self-important, pompous ass

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    Well you are the founder and most prominent member here, it is your responsibility to foster the culture you have built here imo. Applies to everyone - I'd expect to be warned/banned for similar drive by messages too (so yes I do owe that to all of you when I post). No disrespect meant.
     
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    purr1n Finding his inner redneck

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    <sigh>

    You don't get it. I don't want to be your audio Jesus. I want you to be your own.

    I also have a life. Self-banning for one week now. Hiding out the Dagobah system.
     
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    Vorlon self-important, pompous ass

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    I don't want you to be an audio jesus, just that you follow the same informative posting style like everyone else here. That's what makes this site awesome. Founders/mods/admins always set the tone so those positions naturally come with more responsibility.

    + This site has been larger than any single member for a long time already, I'm not sure I understand what you are so stressed about.

    Case in point: had you written an informative summary why you disliked this DAC/amp after the initial leak I would have liked your post and seen it as a good contribution, I don't care if I agree or disagree with those impressions. It's not about that.
     
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    @Vorlon I'm not sure who made you a friend, but it sounds like you still have a lot to learn about our culture and history, as well as how best to fit in here. I'd recommend taking a seat and observing for a long while.
     
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    Vorlon self-important, pompous ass

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    That may be true, but I don't see anything controversial at all in my recent posts. Perhaps I misjudged things here, but to me the situation is pretty clear as I just outlined. Also note that I am not the only one who made this point.
     
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    "That may be true, but I don't see anything controversial at all in my recent posts. Perhaps I misjudged things here, but to me the situation is pretty clear as I just outlined. Also note that I am not the only one who made this point"

    There is a sly game I play: when I withhold, I expect people to ask. Think of it as a technique to promote inquisitiveness and discourage laziness or easy answers.

    This is a cultural aspect that you still do not understand. Finally, it is not your place to say what I should do or not do when you do not understand the culture. It's not a democracy here.
     
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    Skyline Double-blindly done with this hobby

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    You post more than any banned member I've ever seen.

    Go drink some whiskey or something. :p
     
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  12. Vorlon

    Vorlon self-important, pompous ass

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    We can agree to disagree then, it's obviously your site so it's your rules. I actually honestly thought you would have agreed with my posts, so yes there are things I don't understand well here.
     
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    Considering the contributions I've already made, your demands come off as extremely disrespectful and entitled. I have a life. I am extremely busy at work. I tried to quit, but they wouldn't let me, at least not for another few months. I can't be expected to give you my detailed answers immediately. I actually care very little about audio these days. My systems are largely complete. I simply enjoy music, not gear anymore.

    This site has no rules. This site is an extension of the personalities of those in the inner circle and senior members. There are different sets of rules for different classes of members. If you want rules, consistency, and true leadership by example, Head-Fi is a much better place.
     
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  14. Vorlon

    Vorlon self-important, pompous ass

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    Well I can assure you that there was absolutely zero disrespect meant, sorry if you saw it that way. My only point was that as I understood things here everyone is supposed to provide arguments and specifics along with their opinions or otherwise it's more or less just the same noise as on most audio forums where everything is awesome and so on. This case though is quite different as you did not instigate this entire debate at all, for what it's worth the initial private correspondence should never have been posted if you ask me. It adds nothing positive to the thread and I don't mean positive as in "this is a good product".

    But yes, maybe I did misunderstand things. The way I've seen things here for a long time that there is a certain culture here that is upheld in a pretty systematic way actually and it is absolutely not just the extension of the core members personalities. This site is much bigger than that, but maybe I'm wrong.
     
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    What some folks don't is get the fact that no audio gear impressions or opinions are what we call in the food industry a "Silent Review". When a customer doesn't like something we came up with (Christmas Milk and Cookies coffee syrup!) they don't always spoon feed impressions and will completely ignore the product. It is implied that you're smart enough to deduce that what you presenting is either terrible or totally off the mark with the specs or flavoring and move on to the next item.
     
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    The private correspondence posted was also another aspect of the sly game. I didn't have anything to do with it, but I and maybe some other members understood its purpose.

    There's a self correcting mechanism within SBAF @Hands wrote something key about this which I am sure most missed.

    There is so much that you do not understand.
     
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    Vorlon self-important, pompous ass

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    How about the mods clean this thread up? This whole mess serves no real purpose. Plus I'll keep out of stuff like this in the future and concentrate on my own posts instead - I'm obviously not a mod here. That being said I have to admit I still fail to see your point, but it is very obvious we interpret things very differently.

    Just to make things clear: I have nothing against you nor did I mean to insult you. What I expected is actually a reply along the lines of "yeah I slipped a bit, my bad". In no way did I want to foster/feed this mess.
     
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    Speaking as a slightly-deaf, 15-year-long RME fanboy, who hasn't heard the ADI2-anything yet, I think that it is time that I posted on this thread.

    So I did.
     
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    My reply is that this was all intentional. I had zero desire to say exactly why I disliked it until people asked me or guessed correctly. @sorrodje guessed right.

    Only after this did I feel obligated.

    Yes, I will punish you for not simply asking, but instead focusing on nonsense.
     
  20. Vorlon

    Vorlon self-important, pompous ass

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    Not sure I understood you correctly, but are you saying I actually enjoy or want to create a mess here? What exactly do I have to gain from that? For what it's worth I vote for deleting a large majority of recent posts in this thread (including mine).
     

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