Shortly after I took possession of my Balancing Act amplifier, I went to a headphone meet I think in Downey (or was it Norwalk, anyway it was in one of those parts of town where we might expect to see Dominic Torretto and his gang of seven hiding out in a warehouse). This was a weird meet because there were a lot of vendors there (a portent of things to come). As such, I almost erased this meet from my mind, except that I first met LFF here and we talked about music. LFF was born at the wrong time because he loved 80s music (at least the good stuff, the cream that rose to the top, because most of it was garbage) despite him not growing up as a kid in the 80s like how I did. At this meet there was a Sennheiser rep. American. Cocky as shit, because Germans aren't like this (the worse thing that Germans ever say is why is English pronunciation is inconsistent and all over the place). There were two young dudes who listened to the HD800 at the Sennheiser table with the amps there (the HDVD800 hadn't come out yet) and were grimacing in pain. They eventually made their way to my table and listened my HD800 (it could have been modded) out of my amp and were amazed. I was running 300Bs. Their bloomer sound, lifted bass, and rolled treble worked well with the HD800. Yup, two guys learned about "synergy" (which is kind of BS if we really think about it, but it is what it is) how picky the HD800 could be in terms of amps. I believe the music we were playing may have been either Nirvana or the Pixies. As the meet was wrapping up, somebody invited the Sennheiser rep to my table. It wasn't my idea to bring him to my table as I could have cared less what he thought. He listened for five seconds, took off the headphones, and said something to the effect of "Oh yeah, Oh yeah, I've heard stuff like that. The HD800 is perfectly neutral.", absolutely confident in himself. I'm like "Yeah, whatever Dude" <roll eyes>. Oh that's right. I almost lost my train of thought. This was the meet where I heard not one, but a bunch of people going around saying that there would be a successor the the HD800. You know, it's one of those bullshit secrets that go: "don't tell anyone because it's super secret, but I heard...": Sennheiser has something in the works with the HD800's technical ability, but with the tonality of the HD650. I kept eagerly waiting, and waiting, and waiting. It's 2020 now. I don't care anymore. Evidently, this successor to the HD800 was the HD700.