Health Advices and Longevity

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  1. Riotvan

    Riotvan Got lost for three weeks at Delft City Hall

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    Whatever is in eggs or dairy like cheese and butter. Haven't eaten vegetables or other carb heavy stuff. I eat leverworst which is liver in sausage form for some added nutrients.

    I'm still pretty much in ketosis but i can get into it easily if i happen to go out of it.

    I am the anti-vegan.
     
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  2. Jinxy245

    Jinxy245 Vegan Puss

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    Does that make me the Uncle vegan?

    Seriously, if it works , more power to you.

    We've come a long way towards understanding how food can effect us, but it's hardly an understood & generally accepted science. I find it fascinating myself.
     
  3. Riotvan

    Riotvan Got lost for three weeks at Delft City Hall

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    There is a lot of misinformation and propaganda that's blocking the way to understanding and progress.
    If we can have calm discussions and remain reasonable we might have a chance. I find some of the vegan proponents quite aggressive.
     
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  4. ergopower

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    You might as well say none
    carbohydrate per egg - 0.6g
    carbohydrate in 1 slice cheese - 0.4g
    carbohydrate in tbsp butter - 0g

    As @Jinxy245 said, there is still a lot to be discovered. No/low carb diets work for some people, at least for a while, but some can't tolerate. Some haplogroups have a history of extended seasonal periods of no/low carb diets (Inuit, for example), most don't so there is almost surely a genetic aspect to this.
     
  5. Jinxy245

    Jinxy245 Vegan Puss

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    Unfortunately you're quite right. There is the ethical aspect, which puts people up in arms, and I don't think that tact will ever convince anyone.

    I honestly don't believe anyone has the 'right' answer, but ethics aside, there are things to be careful of whichever dietary choice you make.
     
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  6. Riotvan

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    Well i don't need carbs any glucose my body needs it can make on it's own, it is demand driven.
    There are people who have been doing zero or low carb for decades. Looking at the nutrients i think it's perfectly sustainable.
    Switching over to low carb can be hard and lots of people give up. The transition can take months in some cases.
    There is some research showing that people with Neanderthal dna have an easier time going low carb.
     
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  7. Riotvan

    Riotvan Got lost for three weeks at Delft City Hall

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  8. drgumbybrain

    drgumbybrain Science Nut

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    The most part of population don’t get enough sleep. We are a society that burns the candle at both ends, a planet where people stay up all night to study, work, or have fun. However, going without adequate sleep carries with it both short- and long-term consequences.

    In the short term, a lack of adequate sleep can affect judgment, mood, ability to learn and retain information, and may increase the risk of serious accidents and injury. In the long term, chronic sleep deprivation may lead to a host of health problems including obesity, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and even early mortality.
     
  9. Riotvan

    Riotvan Got lost for three weeks at Delft City Hall

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    I liked his quote at the end:
    “Sleep is the elixir of life. It is the most widely available and democratic powerful healthcare system I could ever possibly imagine.”
     
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    Cannot agree more. The body can stand bad junk food that we put into our mouth quite surprisingly well for many years. But deprive of sleep can badly affect you within a relatively short period of time.
     
  11. Deep Funk

    Deep Funk Deep thoughts - Friend

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    A wise lady once told me that 10 hours of sleep a day gives the brains a good boost. Well she was working on her second masters and aiming for her PHD. I think she was right in retrospect.

    5 or 6 days in the week I sleep short hours. On my off days I go for 8 to 10 hours to recover. Once I wake up after a good sleep my body aches like an overstretched rubber band. I am used to it but I do not want to do this for many more years. Waking up after those long sleep sessions is a slow process. Your body feels fucking heavy (and I weight about 130 pounds max!).

    Sleep is essential to recover mind and body. I meditate to also compensate for my lack of sleep. It kind of settles my mind even when I am very tired. Still, when the stress (mental & physical) is too much I know that within 12 to 36 hours I have to catch up and sleep an extra few hours.

    It is a delicate balancing act...
     
  12. Armaegis

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    I find it also deeply important to time my sleep so I don't wake up in the middle of a deep sleep cycle. That's not just dream/REM time, that's when your brain chemistry shifts in order to do whatever magical things that it needs to do to make you a functional human being. If you wake up in the middle of deep sleep, then your brain chemistry is literally out of whack and you'll be a zombie for the whole day.

    Typical sleep cycles are roughly 90 minutes. Sleep for 5 cycles, plus fifteen minutes on each end to get in and out of sleep, and there's your 8 hours. Most of the time I suck at this and don't go to bed on time, so I will then stay up and aim for a 6.5hr sleep. If I miss that one, well, I can function decently on 5hrs, but if I do that more than two nights in a row then I'm simply hurting from sleep deprivation.

    Back in undergrad I used to coast by with 4.5hrs of sleep for most of the week. I was able to shave off those delicate fifteen minutes at each end because I'd pretty much just pass out after doing homework, and I drank a glass and half of water before bed which was just enough wake me up before my alarm. There's no way I can do that now though. If I don't get my 7.5-8hrs of sleep each night I'm a grumpy gus, though I am functional at 6.5hrs for two (maybe three) days before I need to catch up.
     
  13. FallingObjects

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    I think a big contributor to the rising sleep deprivation problem is the almost cultural glorification we have towards... sleep deprivation.

    Pulled two all nighters studying for your exam? Wow, good job! 100+ hour work week? I hope you get a big bonus this year! Look at how hard our doctors work, spending 12, 16, 24+ hours straight at work, such hard working people!

    Losing a few hours of sleep every night for a week impairs your brain to the point where you may as well be drunk, and chronic deprivation damages your health to the point of being comparable to smoking. And insidiously, being sleep deprived makes you less able to feel how tired you actually are - but the cognitive impairment remains. Like being too drunk to realize you're drunk.

    But we don't glorify those behaviors.
     
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    Heh, the real problems are that you don't see gainz from gym and women don't want to have sex while sleep deprived.
     
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  15. drgumbybrain

    drgumbybrain Science Nut

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    Yes! It seems that electric light after sunset and those beautiful 6000 kelvin leds, are putting your brain in a serious imbalance nowadays.
     
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    On that note, the Philip Hue lights I impulse bought a while ago and put in my bedroom and work/office room are really nice for that if you set up an evening schedule for them to change to softer orange tones. Easy to see how nice the night settings are in comparison when you walk into your bathroom and the pure white LEDs sear your retinas off.
     
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    Related to those, using the blue light filters (either digital or physical screens) on your computer and phone screens helps as well.
     
  18. Riotvan

    Riotvan Got lost for three weeks at Delft City Hall

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    Yep i use those filters as well. The lights don't bother me too much it's the screens, so an hour before bed i just read a book.
     
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    Replaced nighttime headphone listening space with "brothel red" bulbs and closed eyes for an hour or so before retiring.
     
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  20. drgumbybrain

    drgumbybrain Science Nut

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    Another interesting news about this topic that I'm studying:

    Artificial sweetener was linked to vascular problems in woman. Nevertheless this cohort probably have several bias, the data have been accumulating and warning us thru the years.
    Compared with women who consumed diet drinks less than once a week or not at all, women who consumed two or more artificially sweetened beverages per day were:

    • 23 percent more likely to have a stroke;
    • 31 percent more likely to have a clot-caused (ischemic) stroke;
    • 29 percent more likely to develop heart disease (fatal or non-fatal attack)
    • 16 percent more likely to die from any cause.

    The American Heart Association suggests water as the best choice for a no-calorie beverage. However, for some adults, diet drinks with low calorie sweeteners may be helpful as they transition to adopting water as their primary drink. Since long-term clinical trial data are not available on the effects of low-calorie sweetened drinks and cardiovascular health, given their lack of nutritional value, it may be prudent to limit their prolonged use.

    https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/STROKEAHA.118.023100
     
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