Kunlun and music_4321 hate each other and take the internet too seriously

Discussion in 'How to Win Friends and Influence People' started by music_4321, Jul 5, 2016.

  1. music_4321

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    Yes, that must be it — you nailed it! How could I possibly not see that?

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    Time for another sparrow break...
     
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    Make it permanent leave this time.
     
  3. purr1n

    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    Give @music_4321 a break. One thing I've realized over time is that he communicates in his own particular way, just as many of us do. We've had our run-ins in the past, some disagreements, but he offers reliable observations if you know what to ask of him.
     
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  4. zerodeefex

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    This is called obnoxious aggression. We try to communicate with radical candor here:
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    Let me be clear about it: don't be a dick and pile on to show how in with the cool kids you are. This is totally the kind of culture we're trying to avoid here and why Marv made a conscious decision to reboot Chang since it had devolved into that shitshow. You don't "get it" if you think your jab was in any way representative of what we're trying to do here.

    @music_4321 /Sparrow, I owe you some radical candor:

    I think you're missing some things here:
    • Your sentiment and points are appreciated and concerns are valid.
    • The sarcasm is not valued here. Also, you're adding drama here where it doesn't need to be dramatic (I do this, too so I recognize it when it happens). You can communicate this more gracefully.
    • Ken is valued here because he:
    1. acknowledges we didn't like some of his products and accepts that (he isn't a dick about it at all)
    2. is willing to have a presence here without being shady or overly self congratulatory. It would be easy to be insecure and criticize anyone who criticizes any of his products but he doesn't
    Frankly, the message itself won't change with him here. If products are crap we'll call them crap. However, we'll act grown up about it because he's willing to have a dialogue. I think some of you don't get that we're not as interpersonally autistic as we pretend to be. When someone wants to have a civil dialogue and approaches us openly, we'll respond like adults.

    Will I call out if I don't like a product (like the Jupiter)? Of course. But with Ken here, I'll also give him honest feedback in real time and treat him with respect.

    In the meantime, as with all products, I will remain skeptical and reserve judgement until two things happen:
    1. Marv gets his pair and posts measurements
    2. I get to hear these things
     
  5. OJneg

    OJneg The Most Insufferable

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    Not gonna read all those words, can someone condense @music_4321 's argument for me?

    On DD....I still haven't heard a DD IEM that beats the best BA IEMs. I would be inclined to believe that an awesome sauce moving coil IEM could destroy a BA solution, but I have yet to hear it. The best IEMs I've heard (Jupiter, Andro, UERM, UE4, ER4, off the top of my head) all happen to be BA's.

    Given what Ken has said regarding the tuning of these DD's and DD/BA hybrids, I am not predicting these will usurp into my personal Hall of Fame. I expect it to be very technically proficient but lacking the correct tone I demand. These days, I need both sides of the equation to really get lost in the music.
     
  6. Kunlun

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    Everyone here who has shared their direct experience with the Vega is only parroting Jude

    Because Ken Ball posted here, people's impressions are dishonest

    Nobody liked DDs before now. Everyone here is regurgitating and parroting Jude.

    I should only receive 2-3 dislikes, not 10+ for saying that everyone but me is a dishonest shill

    The Andromeda is perfect and if the Vega is different in any aspect (treble, midrange, bass, note weight), then it is bad

    I should leave
     
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  7. music_4321

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    Ahh, that terribly vindictive little kitten strikes again with his very peculiar interpretation of his chosen bits in my recent posts. Once again our very hypocritical kitty is attempting to discredit that awful paranoid self-righteous prick known as music_4321/the sparrow.

    Now, I won’t rehash what I’ve said before—my posts are there for anyone to see (it actually takes a few seconds to read them with average speed-reading skills)— but, I would like to clarify one thing: I do not think that “everyone but me is a dishonest shill”. However, I will admit that when it comes to shills, you, Kunlun, are one of the people that come to mind straightaway. By the way, isn’t a shill already someone who is dishonest? A “dishonest shill” sounds a bit weird.

    I know that you no longer have the very, very, veeeery cosy relationship you used to have with a couple of manufacturers, and particularly with one who has a massive worship-like following. To this day, I am impressed at the manner in which you managed to fool so many people, particularly a few prominent individuals on this site and the old CS site. Of course, such cosy relationships could not be kept so long, otherwise you would have been exposed already. Like I told you once, you are a very vindictive and nasty character, but you're not stupid.

    As always, you won’t get any dislikes from me — carry on believing you’re actually someone. Keep up the 'good' work.

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    Ken,

    Many thanks for the Vega’s FR graph! And apologies if I somehow put undue pressure to have it posted sooner than you would have liked. That said, I very much look forward to seeing the Dorado graph, too, hopefully soon.

    Now, in case there's any doubt, let me please state again that I do think it’s great to have you here. I have absolutely no wish for you to leave this site. My concern, as noted already, is that I hope Ken Ball does not become a ’celebrity’ of sorts in this place — have seen signs of that already in this thread and seen it happen a bit too often on HF (and elsewhere), so I guess you could say I recognise the smell… So I hope that my recent posts at least serve as reminders that too much praise and downright arse-licking posts/comments are not things that I and others appreciate.

    Now, for me personally, I find the Vega’s graph quite interesting and rather promising, but I, personally, have reservations about the quantity of bass, and particularly seeing where it starts to rise in the curve; and also whether I might find the treble perhaps a bit too polite for my taste. There’s a dip in the midrange, too, that caught my eye. Still, I’d love to try the Vegas (and the Dorado) eventually and I very much look forward to more (unbiased) impressions.

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    For those interested/curious, here is the Andromeda FR graph posted by Ken (on HF) nearly 6 months ago:

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  8. HitmanFluffy

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    Thanks for the Andromeda graph for reference, but

    What the f**k is up with this false equivalence with HF thing you love throwing in, along with "I and others" to try and moralize to us. The ex-girlfriend drama with Kunlun in the third person is already annoying enough without you equivocating like a motherfucker.

     
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    @Kunlun and @music_4321

    Keep your petty fighting to the thread dedicated to it or I'll have to ban you both.
     
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    LMAO.
     
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    Lmfao, that's f'ing hilarious.
     
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    Wonderful stuff, Kunlun! You’re not only the most manly person I’ve come across on this forum, but also the wittiest.

    Here’s a couple of questions for ya:

    a) Why did it only take you (nearly) 4 months to start doing your thing again, after I wrote this post? http://www.superbestaudiofriends.or...internet-too-seriously.2394/page-3#post-62002 —— surely it had nothing to do with the fact that post received 7 likes and no-one but yourself gave it a dislike. Could it also mean that you’re now jumping on the recent ‘I don’t like music_4321 much’ bandwagon (New Campfire Audio IEMs) which once again allows you to do, your, er, sparrow-loving thang?

    b) Why did you suddenly—and for the first time—disclose that you’d received a freebie when you ‘reviewed’ a Sensaphonics custom IEM? Why, before that, did you never disclose you’d received freebies—in exchange for so-called reviews—when you, err, ‘reviewed’ several Noble Audio IEMs? Could that be related to the fact that you were starting to suck up to, and attempt to be pals with, several Changstar members, particularly one known as Anaxilus, who was awfully close to one Mr Purrin, aka Mr Marvey? Why did you lead people to believe that you’d actually paid for all those Noble Audio IEMs?

    c) Why is the FutureSonics MG6Pro thread that you started such a uniquely peculiar thread? And Just how peculiar exactly is it? Well, I always found it ‘fascinating’ that anyone AND everyone who had the slightest, the minutest criticism of that phone was met with some very peculiar responses—sometimes dowringht nasty and condescending—from someone, yourself, who seemed a little more that an obsessed MG6Pro fanboy. Oh, but most of such behaviour predated Changstar (and SBAF).

    Not having enough money to buy expensive gear is not a crime, of course, and most of us know there are plenty of people with deep pockets who are arseholes. Now, you, Kunlun, not being stupid, and realising how easy it is to mislead people (on HF), specially when your writing skills are fairly decent…well, you were not the first, nor will you be the last one who did not have enough money and resorted to...er, alternative ways to get gear. But you, unlike others, were a little more clever (I often wondered how some shills on HF were not exposed much sooner, i.e. they were a little too obvious). Then again, you were always intelligent enough to be in touch with people who were very critical of shills while noticing how easily it is (and was even so in the past) to dupe people (remember we've known each other for about 6 years now). There are so many shills and so-called reviewers these days, that even dumb people think “Well, he’s got a freebie, I’m not so sure he’s not being biased”. BUT many of these punters only began to question this because now many more so-called reviewers (on HF) were forced to disclose they got free samples.

    So, the ever sooooo paranoid and Kunlun-hating sparrow is obsessed with the Andromedas, is he? The Andromeda has been around for nearly 6 months. And what about the sparrow’s obsession with the EX1000, K3003, ER4S, PF IX, LAB I & Angie before the Andros? Your fondness, OTOH, of the Senn IE800 IEM (is that the only phone you have actually purchased with your own money?)—for it is mere fondness and not downright fanboyism—has been going on for exactly how long in your case? But hey, there’s so little interest in the IE800s these days that people on this site have missed some true gems you’ve posted about these phones on Head-fi (and even on CS and on this site, of course here always with a different flavour/tone, of course, for SBAF is not HF), gems which some would think are the product of a pretty biased person, not just a mere fanboy.

    As I keep telling you now and again, you won’t get any dislikes from me. In a way I almost enjoy seeing how you act in public, seeing you believing you have all this support…support that is based on more than a handful of lies, deceot and a great facade.

    Carry on the good work!
     
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    This thread is hilarious. Much more entertaining than the film Mechanic Resurrection which I just watched and found to be very disappointing.
     
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    Ahh, f**k. I just spit my latte out all over the keyboard and shirt.
     
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    @Kunlun should make a disclaimer next time he posts the news.
     

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