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    The Dell XPS series don't have particularly great keyboards, but the Latitudes are decent. For a reasonably thin and light you could look at the Latitude 7390/7490. I still prefer Lenovo keyboards though and would probably look at the T480s, but I haven't read that many good things about the display. My P51 has an excellent keyboard, but the screen has a weird tint to it. I have to use an external monitor for more colour accurate work. The XPS laptops have really great and bright screens. The Latitudes are a bit of gamble with panel lottery.
     
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    I don't understand. Why can't someone just make a great laptop? Charge 2k if you need to but have it bullet proof like the old Thinkpads. Great build and reliability. Great battery. Good screen. Great keyboard. Reasonably thin. 3:2 display for productivity. There's plenty of us whose livelihoods is based on our laptops who would gladly pay premium that to have peace of mind and computing convenience for 3-5 years.

    This isn't audio where you're chasing some impossible to pin down perfection on a path fraught with tradeoffs. I don't understand why no such product exists.
     
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    This site was rather helpful when I was contemplating laptops. They seem to cover lots of performance areas in detail, good luck!

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/

    And specifically for you this list may be a great starting point:
    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Notebookcheck-s-Top-10-Premium-Office-Business-Notebooks.98925.0.html
     
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    I really like Thinkpads... but yeah their consistency is not great. I've had good luck, but some of my friends have not.

    In any event, all Windows machines kinda suck because they have so many stupid things running in the background. I found latency better on Win7 (but have never done direct comparison on the same machine, so take that with a grain of salt).
     
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    There are a few tradeoffs associated with keeping a laptop thin, but anyway, this is the laptop I kind of wish I got instead:

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Gigab...070-Max-Q-Full-HD-Laptop-Review.296594.0.html

    This packs a GTX1070, thunderbolt ports for future proofing, a color accurate 144Hz screen and ~8 hours of usable battery life. However, it could be a case of the grass being greener on the other side, since the Aero 15x also has its fair share of complaints in the notebookreview forums.
     
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    crazychile Eastern Iowa's Spiciest Pepper

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    I haven't seen any recommendations yet for a Mac. I'm not a blind fanboy and use PC/OS/Linux regularly, but I have to say that my almost 10 year old MBP has been rock solid. I replaced the battery 4 years ago and upgraded some RAM, but I've been really pleased with the reliability. If you need Windows, you can always go dual boot, and still have really solid hardware. Hopefully Mac still makes em like they used to.
     
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    I've supported Macbooks for various companies over the last 6 years or so, and in my experience the overall quality and price-to-performance has gone down with each recent iteration.

    God Tier - Mid-2010 to Mid-2012 (non-Retina)
    All of these are good to excellent, with the mid-2012 15” 2.7GHz i7 being the beefiest iteration.
    - This is the last gen of MBPs to have ethernet port and optical drive. If you don’t have a need for an optical drive, you can throw an extra hard drive in it’s place!
    - In my experience, rare for these to encounter hardware failures. In fact, out of all the models of laptops I’ve managed, including PC’s, the RMA rate on these was the lowest. Obviously nowadays you’re getting these used, but if it’s been properly cared for and/or has low mileage, your chance of failure is low.
    - Super easy to upgrade and service - takes standard 2.5” SATA drive and has user-replaceable/upgradeable RAM. Fairly cheap and easy to replace battery, fans, etc if they start degrading over time. Throw an SSD and 16GB of RAM in one of these and it runs pretty much as fast as any current production MacBook.

    Mid Tier - Mid-2012 (Retina) to 2015
    The retina display, lighter weight, and thinner chassis might make this the best option for many, but these features come with some tradeoffs.
    - They seem more susceptible to hardware failure - I’ve taken a noticeably larger percentage of these into the Apple store for repair compared to the previous gen. This might be anecdotal.
    - Removal of optical drive (or second HDD/SSD if you prefer) and ethernet port
    - Change from standard 2.5” SATA to a proprietary Apple M2 drive (you can buy an upgrade/replacement but options are limited and pricey)
    - RAM is now soldered directly onto the logic board, so you basically can’t replace or upgrade RAM
    For these reasons, I rate the earlier gen higher. Not a bad laptop though.

    Trash Tier - Late 2016 - Present
    I really can’t recommend the current generation of MacBook Pro.
    - Shitty shallow keyboard that not only feels bad to type on but is highly susceptible to failure - I’ve had to service tons of machines from this gen for inexplicable keyboard issues.
    - Only USB-C ports (Thunderbolt 3 as Apple calls them). Want to plug in a standard USB drive, keyboard/mouse, printer, ANYTHING? Gonna need one or more adapters. Not worth the weight/size decrease if you have to carry around a damn dock with you.
    - RAM and flash storage are soldered directly onto the logic board. In previous gen, at least the M2 drive was replaceable. This gen, no replacement/upgrade without replacing the entire board (more realistically just buying an entirely new machine). This alone is pretty much a deal breaker for me.
    - Hardware issues abound - wide variety of failures with the aforementioned keyboard issues being the most prevalent.
     
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    JustAnotherRando My other bike is a Ferrari

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    This was available for a brief period this year. It's all those things (keyboard probably not as good as when they were made in Thailand though). Off memory it was roughly the price you mentioned.

    https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-t-series/ThinkPad-25/p/22TP2TTTP25
     

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