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Omg, I can't believe I misread that! The model numbers are pretty close and I've been wanting to hear the new WF!

Sony should just put IE/OE in the model name ffs ...

Where'd you get the refurb from?

edit: Yamazing is showing $189 "renewed"
https://www.amazon.com/Sony-WF-1000XM4-Industry-Canceling-Headphones/dp/B09757BZM1

@gixxerwimp https://www.ebay.com/itm/265230176953. Came in non-retail packaging, but looks new. So far, no issues found, but if something crops up, 30 day return plus 2 year warranty. The store crops up on deal sites all the time and seem to be good enough.

The XM2 battery lasts several hours longer than the XM3/4 even though they don't have auto off. The XM2 are the most durable.

The headphone present sensor on the XM4 causes issues with Teams/ Zooms calls on Windows/ MacOS for everyone at my work. Even if you have it disabled, the headphone will mute the speakers and mic if you lift the ear cup off of your head to hear something. You have to swap sound cards back and forth to restore audio. It also causes the FR to be slightly different on each ear.

Just read a prior comment from you and it sounds like you an XM3. The coating on the XM4 is the same as the XM3. There are two physical differences between the XM3 and XM4: The XM3 headband can adjust for smaller heads than the XM4 can. There’s an ear present sensor in the left ear of the XM4.

Maybe I should stop trying to save money with DIY...

Which one died? I think I borked the ANC mic on one of mine by dropping it. Squeals occasionally and no bass with ANC, works fine passive. Wonder if 2 units from different sets can be paired.

With the card module or the whole amp itself?

The card disappears from Windows, so I was assuming just the card. Have to move it back to where I have offboard DACs before I can isolate. Good suggestion. I might have killed the whole thing!

"electronic fade." is this some kind of haircut or a way to wear your pants like the cool kids do?

Jot 2 will click a couple times about a minute after shutdown

I think @fraggler is referring to random clicks not due to bitrate change. I get clicks when other stuff is turned on/off, both up/downstream. Not fully random, but not standard behaviour.

The Mjolnir 2 case 'clicks' while warming up and cooling down.

@insidious meme It is pretty wild reading about the soundtrack. I'd love to track down a lossless copy of one of the bootleg compilations, but for now, just enjoying the 3 disc set that came out on one of the anniversaries.

@fraggler I have a FLAC copy of the Esper Retirement Edition from 2007, five CDs worth. Let me know if you want a copy!

Let me tell you about my mother.

Un-eq'd a touch muddy/muted. Just a little boost in upper mids and treble and pretty darn good. I don't look for the technicalities I can get with a real setup since I am looking at all the non-SQ benefits of a set like this.

Will happily share, but my only BT references are an ancient set of Bose QC15 with an adapter and my Sony WF-1000XM3 in ears. I don't intend to commute with these so the added size isn't too big a deal as long as they are comfortable. Mainly, I need something competent for background listening while doing other things with no cable encumberments.

I have almost wrecked my nice headphones while doing leather work because I forgot I was tethered and bent down to pick something up. I will also be moving my office into a larger room, but shared with my fiancee so the noise cancelling will be more important than fidelity as well.

@fraggler "...shared with my fiancee so the noise cancelling will be more important than fidelity as well."

I just don't know where to start getting my head around that!

So you decided to go this route over Vali2+ with Modi3E?

@gixxerwimp yes, for now. Purely for single box ergonomics. I may still grab a Modi3e if one pops up here, but given my current tendencies might just sell everything but main rig and go bluetooth.

More about minimizing stuff. Jot2 as a single box appeals more than a baby stack since fewer cables are involved. I might end up with both depending on if I want more than BT at all my workstations.

Have you heard a modded Modi Multibit? That would justify the separate box IMO.

I have not, but liked the Modi Multibit when I had it (twice) that I was tempted to go that route. For a secondary/tertiary system, not sure if it is worth it. Looking for something for more background listening while working or hobbying. BT headphones might be good enough for that. Still keeping Bifrost 2 + SW51 for main listening.

I mean... a child traumatized and likely suffering from PTSD witnessing the gruesome murder of his parents, then spent the next two decades focusing on revenge... wooden spoon is probably the right way to portray him.

Nice!

The taxes are gonna bite you so hard in the Netherlands, it’s not even funny

Cycling culture there is amazing

The Tchaik was the concerto that pushed me to practice violin as a kid so that I could learn it one day. I grew up loving Heifetz’s interpretation. So unique!

I for one love iPad as a product. I use it for browsing, reading, movie, flipboard, watching family albums. Basically for everything except work. Infact I have started using it with MS Teams to share whiteboard and explain things by Visual means using apple pencil.

Have banished Microsoft and was never even tempted by Apple, but also recognise Android is far from perfect.

The only thing I ever do with music, now, is listen to it, and seldom on a portable device. If I was into making, playing, or even fooling around, with music, it seems it would have to be iPad, /not/ Android. It's a pity it doesn't compete on audio function.

I'm still rocking an older iPad Pro 2016 with 4G. I keep kicking the upgrade can down the road until we have better/actual 5G where we live. I imagine it'll go out of support here soon though.

Look at stuff from Avantree: TC417, Oasis B, Oasis Plus.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JJCZ3WL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_VMKHWFB0G9JYB9YCV624

I ended up with a Taotronics cheapie for $20 due to an Amazon lightning deal. After some fiddling about pairing (make sure all BT devices nearby are off), it works! And it doesn't sound horrible. However, I have to max out volume to get it listenable. Last time I flew, the volume was crazy loud, so maybe it won't be an issue? I fly again early April so will test and report back.

I think this is part of what's fueling the recent dongle explosion.

There was something very simple and good enough about plugging in my Shure IEMs to my phone for so many years when on the go. Working from home for the last 5-6 years has kind of killed that use case so I am ok, it is just really weird to have a phone without one.

Galaxy A series and Pixel 5 still have one. Lots of considerations before the next "up"grade.

How do you like them? Not too heavy on the head? Thinking of grabbing a pair to complement my Blackwood Auteurs.

If you are used to heavier wooded ZMF headphones already, it shouldn't be too bad. Coming from Senn headphones it was an adjustment and they never quite disappear.

That said, I have never really struggled with heavier headphones. I find them comfy enough that I have gone nearly a whole work day with them on. Oh and I love how they sound. I was down to the Auteur and the VC and so happy I went VC.