Music Streaming Services

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  1. rhythmdevils

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    These streaming services seriously need to add a way to tag artists/albums with a genre or category wherever you want and then view only artists in a specific genre. My list of artists is so unmanageable I wind up listening to way less variety because I just cannot find stuff in a random list that jumps from rock to folk to jazz to reggae to classic rock to metal etc. I don’t understand why none of them understand the importance of this. I’d switch immediately if any of them implemented this. Except if it was Qobuz because the library is lacking.
     
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    MFiT was basically branding, the guidelines for it are standard good mastering practices. And Apple never enforced them, sadly. If they had, MFiT masterings would be generally superior to other releases because the guidelines are all good practices. There are a few unique MFiT masterings that are unavailable elsewhere and do sound better than the other versions. I’m hoping a switch to lossless makes those masterings available at 16/44 or above.
     
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    Any Aussie Tidal users?

    Saw the new Tidal tier that excludes MQA Masters. link

    Today in the US with the top plan I see many new releases as well as some older that are Master Only, the exception being when there is a Deluxe version with 1-3 more tracks and that is usually offered in regular CD quality.

    My question is, for this new tier, will all of those releases that I see as master only now be offered as CD quality or does all of it go away. I think I know the answer, that it will be CD quality.

    It begs the question for US users who do not want to listen to anything MQA, how do we get the CD version?
     
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    This is awesome news and may save Tidal for many of us! They won’t not offer certain music, they will offer it in regular FLAC CD quality instead which is all any of our DACs accept anyways.

    very cool. Fuck MQA
     
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    You can't. Audiophiles online have been dissecting and analyzing this to death, but it's all very simple.
    • Premium tier (320 Kbps) will be unchanged
    • The current HiFi tier will be renamed to HiFi Plus, otherwise unchanged
    • The new mid price HiFi tier will be the same as HiFi Plus and using the same files, except that the MQA flag is disabled when streamed so they can't be unfolded.
    Tidal will not be streaming separate MQA and original CD versions. The new tier is simply a quick and easy way for Tidal to introduce a lower price to compete with the upcoming Spotify HiFI (and rumored Apple HiFi).

    BTW, I don't remember where I saw this but a music publisher said that Tidal is no longer allowing two versions (e.g. both MQA and non-MQA) of the same album. A publisher can only submit one version to Tidal. So if the album on Tidal is MQA, it will be the only one available.
     
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    oh bugger. Asshats.
     
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    thanks for the input, lot clearer now.
     
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    edit: @purr1n already started a thread: https://www.superbestaudiofriends.o...-music-announces-lossless-mqa-is-toast.11002/

    Announcement today from Apple:
    https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2021/05/apple-music-announces-spatial-audio-and-lossless-audio/

    Available next month, at no extra cost. Huge implications for the future of Tidal, Qobuz, and Roon.

    Lossless Audio

    Apple Music will also make its catalog of more than 75 million songs available in Lossless Audio. Apple uses ALAC (Apple Lossless Audio Codec) to preserve every single bit of the original audio file. This means Apple Music subscribers will be able to hear the exact same thing that the artists created in the studio.

    To start listening to Lossless Audio, subscribers using the latest version of Apple Music can turn it on in Settings > Music > Audio Quality. Here, they can choose different resolutions for different connections such as cellular, Wi-Fi, or for download. Apple Music’s Lossless tier starts at CD quality, which is 16 bit at 44.1 kHz (kilohertz), and goes up to 24 bit at 48 kHz and is playable natively on Apple devices. For the true audiophile, Apple Music also offers Hi-Resolution Lossless all the way up to 24 bit at 192 kHz.​
     
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    Man I wish streaming services had better artist radio stations. They’re sooooo bad. I pulled up a Townes Van Zandt station just now on Spotify. He’s influenced every folk and country musician with half a brain since he started making music in the 70’s. But the station has with a few exceptions like 5 artists on it repeated over and over.

    Jason Isbell (fucking duh!)
    Lucinda Williams (another duh)
    Steve Earl (no shit)
    Justin Townes Earl (uhhhh he was named after the guy)
    Drive By Truckers (not similar musically and very obvious)

    I could tear apart every radio station the same way. Thing is these services have more artist connections in their database. If you go to “similar artists” there’s way more listed. Why aren’t they on the station instead of repeating the most obvious choices over and over?

    And why is the host artist included? If I wanted to listen to Townes I would. And I would listen to one of his albums. Maybe I don’t want the same things from these stations as other people, but I want it to be a discovery tool. I want stuff like Townes. And no repeats.

    fuckin hell what am I paying for.
     
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    Wasn’t that Pandora’s claim to fame? Really smart algorithmically generated playlists? I just use Radio Paradise when I want something interesting, but obviously it won’t work if you want to hear something specific.
     
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    Yeah I wanted Pandora to be that but they didn’t have enough money for a good enough library to dig from. So it was again...repetitive.
     

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