Discussion in 'Headphones' started by sorrodje, Oct 11, 2015.
“It’s an older meme sir, but it checks out.”
Oh Sennheiser I weep for thee
My favourite headphone brand; reduced to whoring remaining HD800S stock on Drop. How far your crown jewel from 2009 has fallen.
No balanced cable, cheaper packaging, this isn't even really a deal. Few db extra bass yay
While DaBianMan and Audeze sell badly built and super heavy stuff respectively at used compact car prices.
How did it come to this?
2025 - DaBianMan release HE-HD800S1000 for $7999. (patents expire yo!)
The scenes when the HD8XX arrives in one of those newer throwaway boxes that Sennheiser uses for their refreshed HD600 and HD650, lol.
Hifiman HE-HD800 so he can finally claim having nuked Sennheiser.
As long as we are talking about old meme. Below never gets old but does need some modification for new 8XX
Well, DaBianMan already has the HE-1000 (1000 > 800). Now with an SE version no less!
This is a real blown opportunity. I was genuinely excited to see how they modified it.
The HD800 modding alone couldn't fix the OG without EQ for me. I liked the convenience of the HD800S variant. Added bass was fine for me. The stage & imaging seemed to be where it lost its magic vs OG.
I'm with others here, not only is FR unfortunate but that paint job is horrific.
I guess my excitement now moves to the MG Clear? Crossing fingers but not holding breath lol
Lol..say it is not true
Learned from some hospice nurses that when people are at death's door, they'll often have this unexpected burst of energy/activity shortly before they pass. This sudden change often fools family members (and even patients themselves) into thinking that they're getting better. Can't blame 'em. But usually, it's all just a brief grace that allows people to say final good-byes or tie up other loose ends.
And now that everybody knows that Sennheiser is selling off their consumer side, I think we can all accept the difficult truth that the 'audiophile' Sennheiser we know and love is in hospice. And turns out it's been there for awhile now, long before the HD6XX.
I was definitely hoping that the HD6XX was a sign that things were getting better for Sennheiser, and that new glory days were coming. But now I see that (Mass)Drop is to established brands what young brides are to old men. They only marry to cash you out, and you're more than happy to be cashed out, because you know... it's over.
Now being 9 months away from the HD8XX... it's clearer to me now that all those "collaborations" have been a series of good-byes.
Yes, I'm still looking forward to impressions of the HD8XX, and I may even pick one up. But this whole thing seems to me like a tired old company sailing off into the sunset in a tired old flagship. "Nice knowing you, Sennheiser".
"All we had to do was paint it hd6xx blue and remove the balanced cable "
"... And then, we put a trench in the mids so people with ears keep buying our hd800s! "
I hope it sounds decent.. but not getting my hopes up.
To be a bit kinder, I can see the attraction a lot of companies have for a Drop collaboration. Tweaking established designs is much easier from an R&D and manufacturing standpoint than creating new products they require new production lines. The majority of collaboration products have minimal changes that add little to the bottom line for the manufacturer and generate better sales than the existing product does, because it’s now gussied up as new/improved, and because Drop has created its own customer base. I guarantee the majority of 8XX buyers will not be people who were previously considering an HD800/S but now are doing so because Drop has “fixed” it.
For those who know the DVD/Blu-Ray world well, Drop is like Anchor Bay doing yet another release of Army of Darkness or Halloween.
Sennheiser authorized a sale for the HD800S at $1400 for February. Though, I am wondering if because of the Drop HD8XX it might become more permanent of a price cut.
We’re excited to announce a new Drop collaboration: the HD 8XX. This open-back audiophile headphone offers the same outstanding performance that made the original HD 800S the standard in high-end headphones: 56mm Ring Radiator transducers, carefully tuned Helmholtz resonators for a smooth high-frequency response, a vibration damping chassis and more—all with a sound signature and colorway tailored to the Drop community. The hand-made HD 8XX will include a detachable single-ended cable with 6.3mm (¼-inch) jack plug, and use the same HD 800-series connector as the HD 800, HD 800S, and HD 820.
The blue, I actually like.
Extra treble in an HD800? It already suits us people with high-frequency hearing loss. I can't see many others wanting it.
HD800 bass is enough for me as it is.
I think headphone tech has advanced to the point where very little else can be mined from drivers sitting next to your ears. Any DROP/HD800 was going to be a "disappointment", because that company seems to cater to lifestyle customers who think Josh Valour and the other guy with the fat sausage fingers and pictures of underage looking anime girls on his desktop, are the last word in gear reviews. DROP is just doing what it was designed to do... cater to a segment of a market that is ripe for manipulation and profit. Of course a used HD800S with EQ/Loki (Or vanilla 800 with SDR/EQ) is a better deal, mostly because the paint jobs are better. But Josh Valour will sing its praises as the "new standard for TOTL" and it will sell.
I actually hope that a solid Chinese company buys Sennheiser's consumer business and does what Lenovo did to the ThinkPad. Can't see a Western company investing significant resources into R&D for the non-ORFAS audiophile market.
I like Drop blue, but I feel it looks horrendous next to the black. Maybe my wife has just really hammered into me that blue+black is a fashion faux pas. Either way, imagine how much better a silver+drop blue color scheme would look.
I'm looking this from a little different perspective. No buying interest. But honestly materials posted in drop read rather interesting to me. Our $1100 audio budget for this year protected well. Yeah!
If Jude didn't falsify in measuring distortions, HD8XX lowered bass distortion by roughly 10db -- persistently at 100hz and downward. Considering HD800S had high D2 that region, 8XX might sound closer to 800og except bassier fr (which I don't think always bad).
And I don't want to bitch about highs (2khz and above) much atm as the discrepancy on treble FRs between 5128 and Gras was large enough to create different stories respectively. Boosted 9k (shown in both) could be disappointing to me though.
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