ZMF New Headphones: Vérité and Aeolus

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  1. Hands

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    Some of the Nips brightness, to me, is the extra ringing in the lower treble. Cymbals in particular can sound more metallic than usual. It’s not too bad though, more just something you notice rather than complain about much. There’s a little bit of sharpness in a couple other spots, but generally well behaved and cohesive.
     
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    Yeah. I just noticed, a little bit more ringing duration near 5kHz with Nips on the CSD despite Nips looking just slightly less peaky in FR. Atticus has less long lived ringing lower at 4kHz.

    Quick, somebody post in Reddit that Toole and Olive are wrong about CSDs being useless.
     
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    somehow I don't think that'll go too well haha.
     
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    Enjoying the loaner aeolus now.

    Honestly it's very different from what I imagined from Zach's descriptions in the homepage -- thought dark, warm, and having atticus-like humps, far from neutral, and so forth.

    Aeolus are still fun headphones. But pretty surprised with the absence of mid-bass humps, partly because of open-back structure. Definitely there are good amount of trebles and decent top end extension too. However, high mids are relatively recessed to my ears, which probably contribute to "fun" character. Overall, the tonality is fairly balanced if not neutral.

    Like I already posted in profile, aeolus reminded me of empy. My perception is both share somewhat similar philosophy and tonality tuning (flatter bass but recessed mid). But I put aeo way higher than empy in terms of "technicality". While empy sounds more detailed, aeo can better resolve dynamics particularly in bass. I am also guessing aeo is better scaling too. Interestingly aeo sounds better with my current convert-2 than auteur with adi-2 & dac1421. I admit it's not a fair comparison.. but it hints how aeo scales with better sources -- where empy got an epic fail.

    Will hear more and elaborate my impressions from various angles. Needless to say will take measurements before sending aeo out.

    So far so good.

    PS. Zircote wood looks fantastic. Love its dark brown color..
     
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    Did some experiments regarding the amp pairing of aeolus.

    General thoughts
    • Aeolus is not as amp-picky as hd800. But it needs careful choice of the right amps. IMHO HD600/650 sound decent (or at least ok-ish) unless paired to poorly designed amps. Aeolus requires a bit more effort on top of that.
    • Slightly forwarding amp seems to be favored. EC, Schiit, or THX-variants may be worthy considerations.
    • Head-stage is very solid no matter which amp was paired. Good thing in my book.

    I also put a score of 0-10 with 0 being the least recommendable and 10 the most recommendable.
    (5=If someone gives it to me freely, I can use it in a financial crisis or pinch..)

    Specific results with scores -- sorted by score
    • EC Black Widow (9.5 out of 10): Afaik Zach didn't own bw. But aeolus sound as if they were voiced based on bw. -0.5 because of OOP. Outperforms anything else listed below by a meaningful margin.
    • Schiit Jotenheim (prol later gen, 8.5+) and MD THX (7.5): Both are similarly good. But with HQ balanced hot signal, Jot easily outperforms and outresolves THX. Also forwarding nature of jot better suited a tad laid-back nature of aeolus. For great unbalanced source, gap will be reduced to 0.5 or so. Also, while I typically prefer high-gain of schiit amps, in this specific paring, low-gain did more justice to my ears.
    • Woo WA5 (7.0): Not bad but not worth it, either. No WOW. For aeolus, I will take the above two over this any day. Note that I like this amp second best among listed when paired with hd800, ignoring price and value.
    • MD LCX (6.0): Couldn't match to aeolus technicalities. Tonality also feels a bit mismatched.
    • AGD NFB1 (maybe 2017 model. 4.5-5.0): Fortunately their amps are at least better than their r2r dacs. Much tolerable. Needless to say spending the same money for jot or thx is way much wiser.
    • Topping A30 (3.0): it transformed aeolus' treble to a very painful experience, which was not true at all with any other amps.
     
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    I definitely had the painful experience when running it out of my LCX, literally 10 mins of play time before having to take a break.
     
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    Maybe I might expose myself to lcx too shortly. Had to compare multiple amps together.
     

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