Digital Cables

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  1. bixby

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    I have not tried that one but have used their $1.60 24/28 USB cables. Replaced an expensive Wireworld USB cable I liked for a long time. I have moved back upstream to Oyaide for my main speaker and headphone setups. In all cases, shorter always sound better to me than longer. Let us know how it works out!
     
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    Will Do. You probably know me and cables; the chance of me hearing a difference it virtually nill. I will report on perceived quality, flexibility, and strain relief.
     
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    Cable came in. It's not as flexible as a printer USB cable, but certainly flexible enough to route where it needs to go. It has a very robust sleeve, but I have never had a USB cable's sleeve cause me an issue. Seems well made on the outside.

    I ran the bit perfect test on my RME ADI-2 DAC and both the printer cable and the new Monoprice cable passed.

    When I hold each cable to my ear, they sound identical.
     
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    A most essential test :D
     
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    Yeah, that's to keep the 1s in. The 0s thread themselves onto the wire like beads, so they can't really slip off, but the 1s travel lengthwise. So if they ever wobble off-axis, the pointy end of the numeral can poke through the skin of the wire and it can get stuck -- or even pass completely through the insulation and escape.

    In stranded wire, the serifs at the base of the 1 lock into the strands and the twist stabilizes the numeral like rifling in a gun barrel. But in a solid-core wire the 1 can just rattle around inside the wire if tolerances aren't strict enough. The heavy Monoprice sleeve is a particularly elegant solution to this problem: It limits the bend radius so the 1s won't have to turn too sharply (in some fonts, polar moment of inertia is pretty high), and if a 1 should poke through the insulation anyway, the sleeve prevents it from fully escaping and possibly causing damage to other nearby equipment.
     
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    I highly recommend converting your 1's to Arial Rounded; they rocket down the wire faster, and become entangled with the zeros (like pickles and donuts) i.e., what the kids call "quantum tunneling." I saw a movie about it called Log Jammin'.
     
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    Taverius Smells like sausages

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    Can confirm, science has agreed good typography makes the electrological pixies happy.
     
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    Most of my comparisons used a DIY server (Intel NUC 6CAYH (4GB RAM, 2TB SSD)), Allo Digione Signature, Bifrost 2, and Sonore SonicOrbiter SE. Analog cables were Transparent MusicLink Super. W4S amplifier and Silverline Audio Minuet Supreme Plus speakers.

    Coax 1. Black Cat Silverline75. Slightly analytical, great frequency extension, and wide soundstage. No treble glare or harshness. They used to be a relative bargain but the new iteration has risen in price.
    Coax 2. Straightwire Info-Link. Solid silver cable that sounds smooth and warm compared to the Black Cat. Good frequency extension and good soundstage depth. Slightly less detail than Black Cat but engaging without fatigue.
    Coax 3. DH Labs Silver Sonic D-750. Silver plated copper. Mid-way between The Black Cat and Straightwire on most parameters. Smooth and sweet sounding with a bit more detail and sharper delineation of soundstage than the Straightwire. The price almost discouraged me from trying this cable because it was reasonably priced ($140), but I like it a lot.
    If I stop concentrating on differences and just enjoy the music, I can really appreciate all three cables. For the moment I have settled on the Black Cat. Worth an audition through the Cable Company's lending library.
     
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    Have always wanted to hear a Black Cat meow. From what I read, they seem to sound relatively neutral and/or lean.

    I've become a fan of Silnote (note: NOT Siltech) Audio's cables–rich low mids/upper lows, good extension up top. Bought one and in my system/taste, it just beat out the Oyaide in the bass while maintaining the highs. Smooth as in "musically fluid," too. I still think the DB-510 is a great cable value no matter what serifs or sans you choose. The sans are so beautiful nowadays, and you don't even need any kind of Schitty videophile gear to see 'em.
     
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    What the duck. I bet they are still making a hefty profit even with a 60% discount...
     
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    Won’t argue with that, but a lot of products are that way, like clothes. Huge margins as I’m sure you know. These cable guys have families and overhead too, so I don’t begrudge them their pricing. These days you get a lot for your scratch, however. IMO
     
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    I have once come across a site selling NBS cables with a 60 to 80 % rebate. Was I tempted? Not really I find north of 2000 $ for a pair of IC after rebate still a bit steep. Sometimes for fun I would like to know the R&D and the marketing budgets of companies.
     
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    With enough of a marketing budget, you don't need R&D. With enough of an R&D budget, you don't need marketing.
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