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Do you consider GUTB's headphone system to be hi-fi or mid-fi? (Post #185)

  1. Mid-fi

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  2. Hi-fi

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  1. insidious meme

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    It's too bad you wasted a wonderful rant on someone who will never understand it in a million years. There's a reason I called out for him to be limited to this thread, and away from the normal population. It's to keep good members from wasting any neuron spiking on a hopeless creature like this one.
     
  2. GUTB

    GUTB Reddit rejected: Audiophile; SBAF rejected: Poseur

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    Okay, a few items to address:

    Price is linked to audio quality. The relationship isn't always linear of course, but it does remain in general. I've went ahead and ordered the KSC75 -- I eagerly await my salvation from consumerism. I will put it through a comparison regime against other headphones, the cheapest of which cost more than 10 times the amount of KSC75, so this should be interesting.

    Oh, and the Jotunheim is on the way; Schiit is very good at shipping overnight orders.

    The TH900 is a hi-fi product. Sorry.
     
  3. ultrabike

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    And it's dynamic can, not a planar. As expected. Sorry.
     
  4. Dino

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    @GUTB - Any thoughts on the HD650?
     
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    Reiterating opinion, curiously, does not transform it into fact.
     
  6. GUTB

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    Sorry, no. I was thinking of picking one up for my updated review session.

    BTW, here is my current reference chain:

    PC (HQPlayer 3) -> USB (generic extra shielded cable from Amazon) -> Schiit Wyrd -> DH Labs Silver USB -> Gustard U12 -> I2S (short generic HDMI) -> Gustard X20* -> Better Cables balanced XLR -> Schiit Ragnarok

    * Gustard X20 mods
    - Removed mounting hardware from transformers and placed them on 3 layers of cardboard.
    - Twisted all power leads.
    - Wrapped fuse in adhesive copper tape (bypassing the fuse).

    Currently my reference headphone is the HE-6, stock. I did attempted the open grill mod but it did nothing but destroy the sound. Cable is the Black Dragon V2.

    I'm not happy with the TH900 on the Rangarok -- possibly due to the compromised SE output on a fully balanced chain. Maybe not a good pairing with the Ragnarok due to impedance mis-matching, etc. I am very curious to see how the Jotunheim with it's claimed 0 impedance performs with the TH900.

    I use no power products currently except an Audio Sensibility Testament power cable feeding the Ragnarok. Not a singe piece of my chain is plugged into a power bar.
     
  7. Dino

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    You might want to "watch" The Deals Thread. HD650 bargains show up. There have been some great prices this week.

    Edit: There have been many posts suggesting a synergy with the Jotunheim and HD650.
     
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  8. GUTB

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    ? While it's true that dynamic drivers lose to planars in general, it doesn't mean that advanced engineering and new technology in dynamics can't at least compete with higher end planars. For example, in that modded HD800 vs Abyss comparison you are probably referring to, it was 100% expected that the Abyss will beat the HD800 -- but that doesn't mean the modded HD800 wasn't still a strong hi-fi contender.

    The TH900 has super fast attack, superior resolution that is by all accounts just shy of the HD800, and has one of the best authentic bass performance in headphones, period. Moreover, its fit and finish, materials and comfort are premium grade; it is not mass-consumer junk.
     
  9. Thad E Ginathom

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    Stuff sounds so much better when you are being electrocuted or your house is burning down.

    Any of the music from Apocolypse Now would be just great for that (Although The End itself might be a little too corny). With apologies to another member, I find myself wondering what burning Sorbothane smells like. I know what burning cardboard smells like.
     
  10. Deep Funk

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    I prefer "Shaman's Blues"...

     
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    Believe it or not, I did once witness an amplifier die as The End was being played.

    I'm not sure of the theory, but I think that if one is going to hang numerous speakers off one amp, it really matters whether they are in series or in parallel. The owner of the amp was obviously not sure about that either. Hey, it had been working just fine until that fateful moment when someone turned the knob to 11.5.

    In those days, I was embarrassingly (in retrospect) like the character Neil in The Young Ones. I probably watched the demise of the sound system sighing, "Wow... far out, man!" (Although I might have been a bit disappointed when colours stopped blasting from the speakers). (But then, they probably just started blasting from something else instead).

    The owner of the amp was not so amused, and, when he replaced it, he kept the new one in his room :eek:
     
  12. OJneg

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    It seems to me that GUTB's positions aren't particularly radical, but his mannerisms have kicked people into guard mode. I would gauge that we have all fallen into another miscommunication trap.
     
  13. Deep Funk

    Deep Funk Deep thoughts - Friend

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    Guard mode? More "W.T.F.F.Y" mode. This "HiFi" sheep reminds me of the worst Ultrasone-sheeple at Hype-Fi I have encountered.

    These kind of people give audio a bad name.
     
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    Well. Nobody can say you can't take criticism or that you are thin skinned. And for that props.

    It is pretty clear that you consider planar drivers superior to dynamics and that you value quality bass. Based on this I can understand some of your preferences.

    Where we disagree is perhaps on your definition or perception of resolution, attack, clarity and correlation between price and performance. Most planar headphones have a hard time with distortion in the mids and indeed are not the last word in clarity and resolution in those areas. They also have a hard time with treble. That does not mean they sound like music through the analog telephone line. But it also means that technically, some dynamics best some of the high price planars that you have mentioned and keep referring to as "hi-fi" in certain areas. That said, the planars you keep referring to can sound relatively good and engaging, which in the end is what matters.

    Nobody needs to agree with what I wrote above of course. It seems the can you like the most is the Abyss. Enjoy. Life is good.
     
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    So - now that this is it's own little thread in a separate corner and doesn't upset the rest of SBAF I have a question for GUTB.

    If you could only listen to one pair of headphones for the rest of your life which would you pick:

    A) A brand new pair of Ultrasone Edition 10 Limited S-Logic Plus Surround Sound Professional (retail $2800)

    B) A second hand pair of HD650's (about $200 used)

    In other words:

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    It's not a trick question, just want to see your preference here.
     
  16. GUTB

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    I don't know anything about the Ultrasone. If the HD650 performs like the HD600, I would have to be forced to go with the Ultrasone -- at least it looks like a premium product and the HD650 looks like mass-produced plastic junk.
     
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  18. TwoEars

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    Sorry GUTB.

     
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  19. purr1n

    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    Allow me to explain GUTB:
    1. Places a priority on low non-linear distortion throughout, especially in the bass
    2. Likes high linear distortion in the highs (sharpness, definition, macro-detail)
    3. Listens to poor quality recordings with no plankton
    4. Has unresolving gear which cannot reproduction plankton
    5. Really needs to get Focal Utopia
     
  20. Deep Funk

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    Fixed. You missed a point.
     
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