Marvey's Cable Rolling Adventures

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  1. msommers

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    So I think I've narrowed things down to Oyaide and looking at their speaker cables, likely bulk because I'll either go bare or tin the ends.

    They have two versions I'm looking at, both have two poles. One is stupidly thick but does have a shield with a drain conductor while the other is (still thick at 12 awg) but doesn't have one.

    My router isn't too far away from my whole setup, like a foot outside the far speaker.

    So my question is: will the shield in a speaker cable matter here and if so, what do I do with the drain?

    EDIT: I've researched a bit and someone (elsewhere) suggested to put the drain on the negative amp speaker output terminal with the black/negative conductor if the amp doesn't have a ground terminal screw (mine doesn't), while floating the speaker-end drain.

    I don't think floating both sides would be helpful here, but also I dontd know if fussing over this shield for a speaker cable is even a useful endeavor. The router close by does impact my tube power amp if it's too close, I've tried and brings in weird noises.

    So to answer my own question I found this from someone claiming to be an EE and makes sense. Short story, speaker cable is self sufficient from noise and no shielding is needed.

     
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    Interesting review pertaining to the Monolith RCAs:

     
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    I've had the Oyaide Tunami Terzo V2 RCA and Audio Sensibility Testament RCA in my system and I think both have sufficient hours on them, so I did a lot of A/Bing last night. Cable was placed between the pre and power amp.

    Tunami Terzo V2
    • Very well extended in the highs and lows. Lows particularly had great control and could feel the bass more
    • Can come across a bit HiFi sounding in the midrange
    • Particularly excellent in busy passages keeping everything separated. No muddiness here
    • Extends a bit further width-wise, but does seem to lose a bit in depth
    Testament
    • Midrange is really all it has going for it because it's rolled in the highs and lows noticeably
    • Muddy in busy passages, gets rather blobby but can push the depth back a touch relative to the Terzo
    • Slightly more forward
    • Seems to be a bit louder? I should have measured it but I only have my iPad
    • However, the midrange really is to die for. There is suddenly plankton and richness coming out the wazoo. Images appear more fluid and holographic

    I know the Testament has a lot of hours on it because I bought it used vs. the Tunami Terzo which was bought new (because there are fakes often if you're not careful). I'd guess the Oyaide has easily 100+ hours on it as I have been keeping the Metrum Onyx breaking in as well. The Onyx is most certainly broken in by now.

    Audio Sensibility does have a 30-day return policy so I may try their next step up in the copper world to the Statement SE. I'm tempted to try their pure silver as well because silver-plated copper doesn't seem to agree with me, and wondering if an OCC silver cable would or not (you know that brittle, thin, "HiFi" with boatloads of air garbage). But the price is substantial and I really don't want to spend that much. Best case it doesn't work and I return it, worst case is I love it and don't want to return it!

    I spoke with Planet of Sound (Oyaide dealer in Canada) awhile ago about the differences between the Tunami Terzo and Across 750.

    Given that I have a reference point of what he is meaning, I'm half-tempted to step down in the Oyaide world to see what that is like...

    Both cables are built very well, without question. The Testament is certainly more flexible than the Oyaide.

    Cheers. -Matt
     
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    That's usually a signature of silver plated copper. Pure silver OCC cable, as long as they aren't as super high gauge, usually sound nothing like that.
     
  5. BeyerMonster

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    A few years back, I needed some cabling for all of my headphone gear and I didn't want to pay the same "audiophile" tax that I had previously paid for my speaker system (Settled upon Nordost Blue Heaven II after comparison with Nordost Black Knight, Nordost Red Dawn, bettercables.com, and old monster cable products).

    After perusing a few random internet threads, I stumbled upon the idea of getting custom built cables by people that build cabling for pro audio. You pick the exact connectors, type of cable (from among a bunch of well-known manufacturers), and they hand build the cables. I figured at worst, the products had a known origin wrt type of cable, and would hopefully be well made). To date, I've been pretty happy with my decision.

    I ended up using https://www.proaudiola.com for 3' RCA & XLR interconnects using Mogami cabling with Neutrik gold connectors that ended up < $20 apiece.
    They wouldn't make me a set of headphone cables for my Audeze cans back in 2014, but I kinda took their stance on Mini-XLR as a positive sign, even though it was an inconvenience for me.
    Used https://www.redco.com to make me a Audeze-friendly headphone cables also using Mogami that was terminated in mini-XLRs that ran about $50.

    Both sets of cables seem well constructed and I've had no issues.

    I also purchased a handful of cables from https://bettercables.com ~20 years ago, back when their site was less cringeworthy. I've had a handful of speaker cables fail on me due to bad solder joints. The interconnects have worked "fine", but they are kinda loose. With my recent switch from an AVR to separates in my HT, I'm probably going to use the opportunity to just buy a whole new set of interconnects.

    P.S. I have absolutely no commercial interest in any of these companies. Hope it's not taboo to mention them by name.
     

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