Discussion in 'How to Win Friends and Influence People' started by D2Girls, Oct 15, 2017.
However, first, SBAF plays with them. It's not very nice, but then neither is trolling.
Being a dick to CEE TEE on Massdrop is reason enough for a ban on this forum in my eyes. Other forums might not care about this, but he's a well respected person here, and we do care.
So a lot of people have tried to explain this to you but I'll give it a shot anyway.
1. You trolled a well-respected member here on another forum that nearly everyone here visits.
2. You spread rumors at another forum implicating SBAF, which could not only hurt its reputation in general but could have even hurt its reputation with a vendor here.
3. Your initial reaction when confronted about some of your behavior was to lie about it.
4. You did nothing but complain about the (completely justified) suspicion afterwards, rather than put your efforts into earning trust the hard way.
I sometimes feel bad when people get banned here, but this won't be one of those times.
For the record, I never doxxed this person. A few members sent me links to @D2Girls posts BEFORE @D2Girls joined up.
We've let people into CS/SBAF who have done bad things on other forums before. The difference is that these people demonstrated remorse for their actions, along the lines of "I was a total shithead. I lied. I stole. Please give me another chance."
I'm not seeing it here. Instead am seeing lies "that wasn't me" and excuses "I didn't post a good intro because Marv kept moving my 'hi' posts" and unrealistic assertions like I am reborn - my sins have been wiped away (I am not Jesus, so I cannot forgive) and bullshit "Darth Vader killed your father Luke - figure of speech you know?"
It's not what was done at other forums, it's failure to own up. It's actions here. I've only seen this kind of behavior with drug or alcohol abusers. It scares the heck out of me. My gut tells me no - that this will be another headache in the future.
This new breed of kids raised by lawnmower parents is going to be a nightmare.
Are lawnmower parents similar to what the Scandis call "curling parents" (after the way that you polish and smooth the path of the... stone... thing... in curling)?
Newish term. My kid's junior high school had a parents' session on it. Presumably parents are doing things like arguing grades on behalf of their kids. In general, clearing the path to make sure everything is easy for their kids and not letting them fail or meet true adversity.
I've seen this quite a bit. Here's an example. My daughter A didn't want to sit by her friend Y at lunch anymore because A wanted to meet new people. Y had a problem with his, so Y's mom actually ninja cornered both A and Y to provide "counselling" to work out their "problems". (Note A never had a problem other than feeling bad about ditching Y at lunch).
Obviously this counselling wasn't exactly impartial (nor agreed upon). At some point A got up and quietly walked away.
My daughter A told me that she envisioned giving Y's mom two fingers as she walked away, but she didn't. This is the kind of stuff that makes you proud as a parent. It's like wow, you sure don't take shit from people - no one's gonna a pull a Weinstein on you!
We've observed this type of parental behavior lately as our kids have gotten older. They are 9 & 11 years old so I expect we'll see more of it into the tween and early teen years. Now we have a "label" for it .
Parents should be advocates for their kids (heck, its a legal and moral obligation) but like everything there should be a happy medium. A little "tough love" is a good thing from time to time.
Yah, he was talking shit on the Aornic and NH discords about you doxxing him or some shit. He was playing the victim quite a bit.
If you can't sell it by February at the price you wanted to, let me know. I'm going to be looking at the Gungnir Multibit/Yggdrasil around then and making some purchases. But if you're trying to do this quickly, don't worry about it.
He was bullshitting completely. He said you "doxxed him" but he doesn't know what that means. Doxxing would be you giving out his real name or home address. You did neither of those. I called him out on that on the discord, and he said "I KNOW WHAT DOXXING MEANS! HE didn't do that BUT HE TOTALLY DOXXED ME! I'm super cereal guys!"
Gah, I hate those kinds of parents. And the counselor for not even talking to your daughter first. Since my daughter can't even crawl yet, I got about 8 years before I can look forward to this kind of BS. Haha
Oh wait, I'm already experiencing it with this troll. Goddamnit.
Yeah sure i'll keep you mind
If that's how you interpreted this whole situation then you are not a smart man.
Parents arguing with k-12 teachers about grades has been going on for awhile. Especially parents that are obsessed with their kids going to an Ivy League or parents of athletes that might not play due to failing grades. It’s annoying.
What's new though is that this is happening at the college level. While I was a TA I heard about professors getting calls from parents about their grade on the last exam. Professors don't tend to put up with this garbage though so the grades never changed.
From my (limited) experience working in HR, I once had a mother call me asking to set up an interview with their kid.
Needless to say, not the most encouraging to see from my generation. I doubt they even knew she was out trying to get them a job, but still.
edit: At least, I sincerely hope her 'kid' was young enough to be in my generation... the alternative is even worse to think about.
Sad part is...Ivy League schools don't mean shit unless you're going into academia. Harvard education means just as much as a state university in Arkansas if you don't have the charisma or common sense to seem like you're a competent adult and have a willingness to learn.
That said...Professors can be just as bad as parents. I remember a chemistry teacher for a Pharmacy college I briefly went to tell everyone that it was our fault the highest grade (out of 300 students) was a 35% on a test of things he didn't exactly teach. I had a couple more instances like that, including one professor who spent half the semester on a topic that "will never be tested on" in his own words and was never brought up again in any other class. It was a great time.
I think we'd all know if I doxxed him.
Sorry, your application was SBAF was denied. Sucks to be you.
Wah! Wah! It wasn't me. I'm not responsible for my actions. I have legit excuses. Marv is molestering my personal information.
Told you guys - said so - not a good fit.
I value threads like this because I wouldn't have known to associate 'Lawnmower' with that type of parental behavior. Nice addition to the well-known term Helicopter parenting.
This is a great book (I think I caught the reference to it here at SBAF).
Unfortunately inability to accept that there is such a thing as accountability for one's actions isn't exclusive to any parental style or generation. (The news has been highlighting this phenomenon of impunity a lot lately.) Generation bashing is myopic because it's been a favorite activity of literally every generation since the beginning of civilization. I do wish age was a dependable indicator of that behavior but I can't conclude that it is. Clearly this poster is immature and should be treated as such. Since many of the members here are older and more mature, I think the best course of action would be to poop on his doorstep.
I’m actually not too sure which generation is being bashed here. The younger ones for being spoiled or the older ones for enabling this.
Regardless, it goes beyond partenting and generations with things like Germany's right to be forgotten laws.
There's some things that should hang over you for a long time if not forever.
I blame the baby-boomer generation, at least the ex-potheads in the media, for starting the generation bashing on Generation X. We were slackers who didn't give a shit and preferred to wreak destruction in mosh pits rather than submit to more traditional structures.
Then the baby boomers spawned the Millennials and early on wrote fawning pieces over how awesome their kids were going to be. A decade or two later, Millennial now seems like a bad word. Even my kids think negatively of Millennials. Heck, I know a lot successful baby boomers who talk about their Millennial kids with distain.
Generation bashing is fun. So is making fun of Asian drivers. I'm go glad I don't live in Irvine anymore. Asian drivers suck when they drive in the USA.
Gotcha, sounds exactly the same as what the Danes call "curling parents" (sadly not a new or exciting term). Nice to see local variations!
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