The Mike Moffat (#2 at Schiit) Blog

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  1. baldr

    baldr Schiit-sterer

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    God forbid I forget Conrad! The Sol would NOT be happening without him, and yes, indeed on it goes and is clearly in production as we speak. All component parts are ordered. I don’t know what Jason has posted, but four of us visited our new foundry last week. Compared with our other candidate, it was much less dangerous. There were no open vats of molten aluminum lurking in open, ill-lit, production space awaiting some person like me to trip and fall in, face first. The entire atmosphere was quite huge and sanitary, with all molten aluminum at least twenty feet distant from any visitors or employees. A production line of cast parts came out of the mold on a conveyor belt, rather than being pulled from beneath molds by workers with three inches thick thermal gloves. The good thing about the first foundry was that the staff had to be hyper-aware of hazards at all moments. The much safer and modern new foundry allowed all to concentrate on the quality of the parts without eyes darting towards various fatal hazards all within inches to feet. The first foundry candidate had machines the size of very small cars like smart cars. The current foundry I found and chose has machines the size of short railroad cars.

    I digress. All of the parts for the Sol itself are now ordered; the only exception is the shipping box and the tools for assembly. Tony is gathering up a list of the tools as I write. Yup that is tools – several of them. This is assembly required. Definitely not some turnkey cheapass turntable designed to plug and play. It will be necessary for the user of the Sol to know some important turntable fundamentals which optimize setup for maximum performance and maximum cartridge and vinyl life. The better your TT is setup, the happier your records, and the happier your cartridge. Since it doesn’t take long for your vinyl to be worth more that your Sol and cart combined, this is important.

    Most of the cheapass tables are sold prefitted with entry level cartridges. The Sol will work well with far better ones. We will make some videos which, among many other concepts, explain why setting your tracking force (playing weight) too low can fuck up your records far worse than setting it too high. If you are going to get the most out of vinyl, it requires some effort on your part. I know, there are those who will eschew vinyl for either theoretical or practical reasons.

    It is not my purpose to display any cavalier attitude toward digital sources either streamed or played from physical media. Lord knows I was on the receiving end of many such attitudes when I made the Theta very early digital products. I made the Sol because there is some nearly ineffable aspect of analog (continuous over time) record/playback. It’s scarcity in the context of the entire sonic experience makes it more valuable. Few have the patience for this.

    This is neither evangelism nor suggestion; I believe this. If you do not, that is fine. I love all audio so I build products for digital media and soon will make products for physical digital media as well. True happiness is based on liking what you have rather than wanting what you do not. Here comes the preaching: This is a hobby; enjoy the passing parade of music.
     
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    You have a talent Mike. It's very difficult to make people laugh. But you can make people laugh with the written word which is exponentially more difficult.
     
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    Assumed you meant Joseph Conrad, and was wondering what twisted, inescapable human destiny had led to this point. The description of the first foundry giving me mental pictures like scenes out of Apocalypse Now, it seemed appropriate.

    Then I checked the previous post on the previous page and found I was wrong. Disappointing, in a way!
     
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    schiit SchiitHead

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    I mentioned in one sentence that we'd gone to the new foundry and that it was much more first-world than the last one; I'm thinking of reasons to go back mainly to go to Wicked Cow burgers nearby and get a burger and some local beers. If all of our new chassis end up cast, you now know why.

    But yeah, Mike said it better than me: the new casting facility is much more confidence-inspiring than the one we first visited. They even have robots scooping the molten aluminum and robots spraying the Pam™ (or whatever the hell ass non-stick shit they use in casting) between shots.

    And seriously, casting could open up some interesting new ways to do chassis, but we're still in the we'll-see phase on that. Which reminds me, I need to contact the casting company about some questions I had...
     
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    ButtUglyJeff Stunningly beautiful IRL

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    ...new cast heat syncs for new Schiit uber amps.
     
  6. rlow

    rlow A happy woofer

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    If you’re walking around that old-school foundry and come across this, it’s probably not a great sign...

    [​IMG]
     
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    Taverius Smells like sausages

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    Iunno I won't mind having my audio gear made by the foundry that prevented the robopocalypse.

    Can't get a better guarantee than that wrt your gear not achieving sentience and murdering you in your sleep.

    Kinda surprised California doesn't have a label and certification program for that still.

    :drunk:
     
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    rtaylor76 Can't wipe his tag

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    How many parts are being cast?

    I am guessing plinth and motor housing. What about the platter?
     
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    aamefford Nothing like chamberpot coffee

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    First foundry description had Zappa “The room where the torture never stops” playing in my head as I read it.
     
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    baldr Schiit-sterer

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    Plinth and platter are cast and finish machined. Motor Housing is a stock can.
     
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    Will the platter need weights to make it balanced? Long ago I owned an Acoustic Research ES-1 turntable that had a cast platter, and it had weights attached to the rim on the underside of the platter, not unlike the weights a tire shop puts on a wheel during balancing.
     
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    Does this mean a CD transport is still in the works? I expect Sol is taking up a lot of your time, but if a Schiit transport is likely coming down the line in a year or two I'll just wait rather than shopping around for something else.

    Indeed. Thank you for what you do.
     
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    I mean, if they are doing a transport with a Pi type system for CD playback, I see no reason why they can't embed a player type system in there as well for digital files and streaming. Although this would either take more development or partner with someone like Volumio, MoOde, etc. Just seems like if they are going to go that far with a tiny computer device like a Pi, it would be a huge added benefit.
     
  17. baldr

    baldr Schiit-sterer

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    God I need to settle back here after a dyspeptic blast of non-sequitur argument in SJW/racial terms on another venue. I discuss for this post the transport. In the above post, @rtaylor76 speculates on a “pi” as a fundamental component of the upcoming transport. That is a no, negatory. We built the first proto with a pi for the purpose of data handling and cd transport control, a mere tiny subset of which a pi is capable. Why not include a pi? Well it seems a stretch for me to muster civil customer support gestures for hardware; but software? One of my typical retorts could be “Well, why don’t you try to find someone at pi to give a Schiit on why your fucking weather station won’t work on our transport?” How about “Why don’t you go back to JC to learn all about Linux programming?” Or, “How about we refund you on this product and you agree to never call us again.” Perchance, “Why don’t you buy a pi and whimper to them?” (Please @rtaylor76, do NOT take this as directed at you.)

    Perhaps it can now be understood why I consistently fail at customer service. Further, this is not just because I loathe such work, but because I perhaps fail to grasp why so many are incapable of researching on their own. This is in many cases manifests before the fact of purchase, where all too often stunningly obtuse decisions are made. I have heard it opined that people are stupid, with which I for the most part, strongly disagree. I believe unwillingness trumps stupidity.

    Returning briefly from my sucking at customer service to the transport - although it may well be possible for many at this forum to add a financial calculator to their pi equipped (not) transport, I have no intention of unleashing such a product. I build appliances as they are simple enough for me to understand.

    It will be a transport with enough of pi functions to effect cd start/stop/pause/skip/skip back/scan/scan-back/open-close/ etc. etc.. There will be a digital audio board signal processing with coax, AES, and accujack USB out. (TOS only if there is a deafening roar of TOS nostalgia)

    There will be a super whump power supply and the expected Stoddard industrial design. It is guaranteed NOT to sound like ass.

    I am so tired of snowflakes – I know I am a relic from another era. They just need to live in a world where a trigger warning is the scream of an incoming Chicom 107 and a safe space is an army hospital. That might make them shut the fuck up.
     
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    I chuckled several times.
     
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    LetMeBeFrank Won't tell anyone my name is actually Francis

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    Fuck yes.
     
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    Hey, no offence taken @baldr. The Pi is an experimental device and non-serialized. It is designed for hobbyists and for testing/developing.

    You guys obviously know the market and your own capabilities. You have designed some great solutions beyond just a DAC and amps, and now transport and vinyl playback. I think it is only natural to think about the possibilities for digital file playback from you guys that would also "revolutionize" things, since that is the bulk of most collections these days.

    And you guys talk about the design process even before things are built. It is great to see the inspiration and journey these challenging deaings present. I also think it is natural for schmucks like me to think "what if...", but it is never a "should" request. Those "should" people are not your customers.

    So don't mind me...just dreaming. Keep doing great things. I look forward to this transport design and all your other Schiit.
     

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