Comments on Profile Post by ChaChaRealSmooth

For me it depends upon the sin? Treble fuckery can be a deal breaker, so I'd err more on the side of omission there. Then again it might have more to do with the cohesiveness of the entire F/R. Damn good question IMO.

Both. :) but I can live with omission much better than commission. Sins of omission tend to make the music sound kind of boring. Most sins of commission make me rip headphones off my head in very short time and I can’t even tolerate listening to them.

I prioritise textures and crisp spatial layering over correct timbre a lot of the time it feels like (though having all of the above would be neat), but there have been a few bits of kit, e.g. TH900, IER-Z1R, where excesses of upper mid and treble energy were outright painful). Guess it's just varying degrees of tolerance across the board, though I'm inclined to agree that omission is irksome.

How can you ever know whats omissive until hearing 'better' than the best youve heard now? And how can you be sure that what makes the latter better to you is actually a comissive quality you simply have a taste for? Calling something omissive or comissive implies a goalpost. Im not sure such a goalpost really exists, at least objectively.

Definitely the sins of omission are worse for me, as I often repeat the same music. Once I expect that beat, or that drum kick, or that cymbal I've heard a thousand times, I notice when they're not "right" (whatever the hell that should be anyway).

Good question @E_Schaaf. I'm speaking more about missing resolution/textures. Obviously, this implies a certain level of performance from your gear.

There's a caveat with this even. Yes, the Stellaris is the best amp I've heard. I don't own one because I don't want to deal with 2A3 tubes. I feel the Starlett is good enough despite technically committing more sins of omission.

My question was more of a thought question anyhow. Didn't mean anything serious by it; was just curious what the responses I get would be

@E_Schaaf Amir just came reading that. Yes, omission and commission are subjective and a socially normative standard, just like most of the stuff I think we talk about? But how do you know my pain is like your pain? You never know for sure, except we both talk extensively and eventually go "yup it's the same artifact, and I want / do not want it."

Funny - I was going to muse about this briefly in my show impressions as it was interesting for me to see the way different people approached listening to audio, what they listen for, etc.

For me it's the same as Jinxy245.

The higher up the competence, the less you tolerate omission. As stated before some of the commission is not so bad and some of it can fill some holes of the rest of the chain - like lean or crappy recordings can benefit from tube bloom. Also, I am quite sure many folks don't know it that they are rocking to sins of commission and are content. The movie can be prettier than real life.

@Priidik everything has a sound whether people like to admit it or not. Transducers are the most obvious; different driver materials sound different no matter what you do to them. Which one is correct? Hell if I know.

In regards to resolution; after we get to gear like Rockna Wavedream + DNA Stellaris I'm really not sure how much more resolve we can pull.

What I've observed is after a certain point in performance, the sins of omission become exceedingly few and it becomes a game of listener tolerance of various sins of commission. Most importantly though, system synergy cannot be understated

Not sure I want to bring in discussion wrt 2 ch ORFAS shit / different magnitude price wise than Rockna and such. Forget bang for buck, forget money matters - level. I am fortunate to have daily exposure to such. There is character to every component, but the higher you go the less obvious it is. The flaws get delicate and nuanced - just as music. On that level I prefer added over subtracted.

Fixing sins of omission cost money

Without a doubt, commission. E.g., Schiit's MB bass, OG Cavalli LC's scooped upper-mids, HD800's treble. If you can't / don't want to get closer to neutral than that, I don't care how great your staging is.

omission is lack of ability. Commission is acquired taste Lol

Hmmm, sins of ommission and I might still enjoy what is there. Sins of commission stick out and spoil the party. (In a general sense.)