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  2. crenca
    crenca
    And on the 543 time, something goes wrong - and yes its often the cop who snaps - and this criminal actually gets hurt, or dead.
    May 31, 2020
  3. crenca
    crenca
    I'm not condoning the what this officer did, as I believe he knew exactly what he was doing, but its amazing this does not happen much more often than it does...we expect too much from our law enforcement, most of whom are only "average" people at best...
    May 31, 2020
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  4. purr1n
    purr1n
    A lot of goodwill and solidarity that would have or could been has been squandered. This "understandable" shit is just that: shit. But no one dares call it. Thousands of LA businesses scheduled to reopen - now they can't. People will stay silent, or say the PC-thing, and resent within their hearts. That's x1000 worse.
    May 31, 2020
  5. JK47
    JK47
    I'm fascinated that other parts of the world are actually protesting for Floyd. A lot more bigger and badder injustices in the world that people should be worried about.
    May 31, 2020
  6. purr1n
    purr1n
    Just an excuse to go out and do something during COVID lockdown.
    May 31, 2020
  7. Lyander
    Lyander
    ^Besides that, racism isn't just an American pastime and there are people all over who are sick of it. Show of solidarity I guess, even when there's fracturing.
    May 31, 2020
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  8. JK47
    JK47
    Newsom did a better job keeping people off the beaches in El Lay than protecting the county.
    May 31, 2020
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  9. purr1n
    purr1n
    USA is uniquely worse - institutionalized slavery for way too long. Still paying the price for it. There's racism in Taiwan against the aborigines. Sure my ancestors killed a bunch of them and then intermarried. But there was never institutionalized slavery. Such evil haunts for a long time. It's seriously bad karma.
    May 31, 2020
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  10. purr1n
    purr1n
    Newsom should have known this was going to happen. People were already talking protests and riots because of COVID. We need some strong leadership telling our citizens that looting is wrong and contrary to the goals of justice, fairness, and peace.
    May 31, 2020
  11. JK47
    JK47
    Yeah, he was too busy taking a vacation in Montana.
    May 31, 2020
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  12. Stuff Jones
    Stuff Jones
    The problem is that most people are scared of speaking out strongly against the rioting for fear of being mistaken as being unsympathetic to the cause. Rioters should be condemned and dealt with as the criminals they are. I'm torn on the legitimacy of the protest in a pandemic - how many additional deaths is this causing?
    May 31, 2020
  13. JK47
    JK47
    ^Scared of getting beaten to death by a mob and/or their home/business burned to the ground.
    May 31, 2020
  14. Lyander
    Lyander
    Hah, I'd say people on my end know a thing or two about slavery. But yeah, one group's experiences don't invalidate those of another so it's not really fair to compare the two.
    May 31, 2020
  15. Lyander
    Lyander
    My stance is the same as @Mystic's: people are angry and they want to fix things— speaking doesn't always work so they need something louder. It's not "right", I believe, but I understand why it's happening.

    What honestly angers me is that there are apparently people taking advantage of a man's death to enrich themselves. I have no words for that.
    May 31, 2020
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  16. Psalmanazar
    Psalmanazar
    All of the massed protestors and rioters just gave themselves an airborne virus. Forcing them to lock down during the second wave is going to get rough.
    May 31, 2020
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  17. Psalmanazar
    Psalmanazar
    Historically, looting was only carried out after disasters to eat and by armies. Only an army could loot because prior to 1860ish, most of the world still practiced crucifixion or something equally painful.
    May 31, 2020
  18. insidious meme
    insidious meme
    Back to the good ol days of the roof Koreans during the Rodney King riots.
    May 31, 2020
  19. DEATHxMACHINE
    DEATHxMACHINE
    Are leftys not opposed to inertia operated shotguns?
    May 31, 2020
  20. TheIceman93
    TheIceman93
    I fail to see how destroying the businesses of innocent people already hit hard by the lockdown has anything to do police brutality but I guess I'm the square in my group. Most of my classmates are shockingly down with the rioting and looting. How exactly does this advance the cause? I guess nothing changes hearts and minds like baseball bats, Molotov cocktails, and stolen Gucci bags.
    May 31, 2020
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  21. Lyander
    Lyander
    @Psalmanazar now looting is used to send a message and... enrich the self? Shit on that.

    But that all aside missing the message for the means is exactly the wrong thing to do. The way I see it there's a long history of hate going back centuries that needs to fucking end
    May 31, 2020
  22. TheIceman93
    TheIceman93
    The long history of hate will be reversed only when each individual takes responsibility for their actions and chooses to contribute to society in a positive way. You only get what you give. This applies equally to bigoted cops and opportunistic thieves and vandals.
    May 31, 2020
  23. Psalmanazar
    Psalmanazar
    Karma will come for all.
    Jun 1, 2020
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  24. fp627
    fp627
    *grab popcorn, put on pseudo-intellectual smug hat, think back to politically incorrect thread where I ask how anti-gun pansy bury-head-in-sand thinking can actually stop any kind of oppression, governmental or societal... hurr hurr feels smuuurrrts*
    Jun 1, 2020
  25. fp627
    fp627
    Although in all seriousness semi-auto shotguns are actually not ideal for most people. They're generally the hardest firearm use properly. And contrary to popular portrayal - the RANDOM shot can still be deadly 100+ yards out. A small caliber rifle such as an AR is actually better for most users and less likely to actually kill the attacker (ironically the thing politicians want to ban).
    Jun 1, 2020
  26. fp627
    fp627
    @crenca Think you nailed it. I 100% support police reform (and I hope said cop gets convicted) but until we can address the hard questions and realities of police work we will see 0 real reform after a publicized dog and pony show + wasted tax payer $ and bad apples will continue to rot the entire barrel.
    Jun 1, 2020
  27. JK47
    JK47
    Semi-auto shotgun has lower recoil than pump action, and simplifies the reloading process. Point and keep squeezing with birdshot (solves over penetration and distance lethality issues), easy peasy. I prefer pump myself though, and even that's simpler than an AR to use. You almost need to be a diehard enthusiast to make the most of an AR.
    Jun 1, 2020
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  28. fp627
    fp627
    12g or even 20g recoil is often too much for most people under 160lb who don't train regularly. Birdshot doesn't have enough mass/penetration to stop an attacker consistently but buckshot can over-penetrate and is still deadly out to distance (+ randomness) whereas many small caliber rifles do not penetrate as well (round falls apart when hitting solid objects) and are not random.
    Jun 1, 2020
  29. Psalmanazar
    Psalmanazar
    A decent semi-automatic rifle is easier. Ruger 10/22 is cheap.
    Jun 1, 2020
  30. fp627
    fp627
    Mag is easier to load than individual shells, especially under stress. AR probably wasn't a good example, but many easier small-caliber rifle platforms exist.

    Or the world could just be less messed up.... but unfortunately that's not likely.
    Jun 1, 2020
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  31. JK47
    JK47
    I would NOT use a 10/22 as my sole home defense weapon. Good luck taking down a hopped up dope fiend wearing a jean jacket with the strength of 7 psychotic sailors. They will more than likely crush you with your own .22 rifle, before they die a day later from blood poisoning if you actually manage to hit them somewhere the round would penetrate.
    Jun 1, 2020
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  32. JK47
    JK47
    M1 carbine or mini-14 at the least for a semi-auto rifle. Still not a fan of rifle use unless you have a sizable house or property. Hand gun still reigns supreme for small house and apartments.
    Jun 1, 2020
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  33. Stuff Jones
    Stuff Jones
    I'm seeing calls for this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackout_Day
    Large crowds in a contagious pandemic. Destruction of property and a boycott in a recession. This is sure to win hearts and minds to the cause.
    Jun 1, 2020
  34. DigMe
    DigMe
    Have the Korean business owners in LA mobilized yet?
    Jun 1, 2020
  35. DigMe
    DigMe
    I used to have an AR. It was fun to shoot and mod but sold it because I wasn’t using it enough. Mostly shot hogs with it. I will never sell my trusty Remington pump shottie. That has served me flawlessly for so long for so many purposes.
    Jun 1, 2020
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  36. DigMe
    DigMe
    That shotgun and my XD45 are two that I can never see myself selling off. Probably my Rem 700 .30-06 as well. That one has fed the most mouths.
    Jun 1, 2020
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  37. crenca
    crenca
    AR's are fun, but they are mechanically complicated and require familiarity/training to be reliable. My trusty Mossberg, with the safety up top in a natural position for the thumb, is what I would want in a high stress (and thus muscle memory only) situation with the zombies advancing on me...
    Jun 1, 2020
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  38. purr1n
    purr1n
    LOL, they won't dare attack K-town.
    Jun 1, 2020
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  39. dark_energy
    dark_energy
    @crenca I get your point. A local man wielding two 30-40 cm kitchen knives assaulting a police officer was shot that brought up controversies. Police are trained to shoot critical mass when dealing with hostile targets with deadly weapons to save other people who want to live. No comments on the recent USA case. I dont know enough about it.
    Jun 1, 2020
  40. dark_energy
    dark_energy
    I read some analysis in that.case I described which concluded they should have used a tazer which they didnt have in standard equipment. Neither should one assault an armed police officer.
    Jun 1, 2020
  41. DEATHxMACHINE
    DEATHxMACHINE
    @crenca that is bologna. Training someone use an ar is not any harder than a shotgun nor is it truly anymore complicated. You have a higher chance of short stroking the pump on a shotgun than to have a failure in ar when shooting.
    Jun 1, 2020
  42. JK47
    JK47
    @DEATHxMACHINE I've fired 1000's of rounds through an AR and a pump action, guess which was has never failed... the pump action, the AR has disproportionately failed multiple times, and it was cleaned after every use, that cleaning in itself is a royal pain in the ass, sorry bro.
    Jun 1, 2020
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  43. DEATHxMACHINE
    DEATHxMACHINE
    @JK47 and I had the complete opposite experience. I may have not put 1000s of rounds through my ar but I put over a little over 1000 with no issue. I have also put over 1000 rounds through multiple pump shotguns and have had many issues between the elevator and ejection. And ar is not hard a all to clean. A alot easier to dissemble than a shotgun where you need a screw driver to do a deep cleaning.
    Jun 1, 2020
  44. DEATHxMACHINE
    DEATHxMACHINE
    "Many" is an exaggeration, probably 10 but 10 more issues than I have had with my Daniel Defense. I am not saying that either is more reliable but I am stating that there is a higher chance of operator error causing a malfunction when shooting a shotgun where there is almost none with ar as an novice. I am strictly speaking when you take the safety off and start pulling the trigger.
    Jun 1, 2020
  45. dark_energy
    dark_energy
    Anyone can shoot and clean a rifle. They can learn it in 1 h if they wanted to. Mastering it is an other story. Noobs make dangerous safety mistakes, often.
    Jun 1, 2020
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  46. crenca
    crenca
    The AR vs. Shotgun vs. handgun is sort of the like the subjective vs. objective debate in audio. However, it is widely acknowledged (even a "consensus") that for most, given very limited training and practice, in most situations, a shotty will be more reliable (on several levels) than an AR.
    Jun 1, 2020
  47. crenca
    crenca
    The one time in my life when something went bump in the night and I decided it was time to reach for a firearm (turned out to be the wind blowing a door open), I reached for my AR. Mistake! A real intruder would have shot me before even looked up.
    Jun 1, 2020
  48. DEATHxMACHINE
    DEATHxMACHINE
    That is very true. In my experience that reliability difference is negligible when you consider how reliable they are. I have absolutely no worries either will fail me if that time comes to test it. But I know that my dumbass will forget about the pump release button behind the trigger when reloading.
    Jun 1, 2020
  49. DEATHxMACHINE
    DEATHxMACHINE
    Jun 1, 2020
  50. crenca
    crenca
    @DEATHxMACHINE, a textbook example of how if it ain't muscle memory, your SOL because higher level thinking is just not present. For example, at one point I somehow managed to release the (full, metal) magazine, where it struck with a corner on the top of my bare foot
    Jun 1, 2020
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  51. crenca
    crenca
    I spent a couple of hours the next day cleaning up the blood I trailed through the entire house. A real intruder probably could have casually strolled from room to room killing my entire family, before even getting to me. I wish there was a video of the experience, it could serve as a demo at the beginning of a rifle class... ;)
    Jun 1, 2020
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