Comments on Profile Post by purr1n

  1. Thad E Ginathom
    Thad E Ginathom
    That's a bit like saying that people who can't stand bad smells should cut their noses off.

    It's better to find the cat shit and clean up.

    Or.... something like that.
    Feb 1, 2022
  2. Cellist88
    Cellist88
    Come on man. This comment is just as much cancel culture as what you are hating on. People have to just do their own thing and be happy.
    Feb 1, 2022
  3. Lyander
    Lyander
    There's misinformation that's mildly inconvenient and also the kind that could be genuinely harmful. I do think Neil Young and Joni Mitchell aren't relevant enough in the modern space to do much (if BTS left Spotify...), but yeah peaceful demonstration against ideologies you cannot abide is always a justifiable option.
    Feb 1, 2022
  4. Merrick
    Merrick
    Freedom of speech goes both ways. Young and Mitchell and other artists have the freedom to remove their music from Spotify. Young in particular isn’t canceling himself, he’s been boosted by Apple and Amazon and is doing a guest stint on Sirius.
    Feb 1, 2022
  5. YMO
    YMO
    The high road is not caring about other opinions that they disagree with. Young and Mitchell are being a bunch of entitled children over words. End of the day, Rogan wins.
    Feb 1, 2022
  6. purr1n
    purr1n
    Just walk away. It's not about free speech. It's about being wise employing skillful means to achieve an objective. Creating a big stink, especially if you are no longer relevant, only serves to give Joe Rogan more attention and greater reach. I bet Joe Rogan's Spotify numbers go up massively. Sun Tzu would not recommend this path, because it's not a path to victory.
    Feb 1, 2022
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  7. E_Schaaf
    E_Schaaf
    In a post-truth world, the only solution to avoiding disinformation is suicide! Furthermore, suicide is more effective than vaccines and/or ivermectin at preventing covid-related hospitalization :)
    Feb 1, 2022
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  8. purr1n
    purr1n
    Exactly, so it's best to be skillfull to avoid unintentional amplification of the conspiracy theories of the nutjobs. Spotify will lose a few hundred subscribers but gain tens of thousands more because of old farts making a stink. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. However, very few have the wisdom and skill to maneuver to not fan the flames of misinformation.
    Feb 1, 2022
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  9. Merrick
    Merrick
    Young may not succeed in removing Rogan from Spotify, but that doesn’t mean he failed every objective in starting this either.
    Feb 1, 2022
  10. purr1n
    purr1n
    His objective was ego gratification. So obvious - we are talking about Neil Young. He failed from the start because no one will convince either side with respect to vaccines. Everybody has made up their minds and 99% of folks who wanted to get vaccinated already have. Now I actually want to listen to Joe Rogan's show when I had no interest before.
    Feb 1, 2022
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  11. purr1n
    purr1n
    Now I'm actually curious what's actually said on Joe Rogan's show. If Chappelle is any indication, the news media often puts a wrong spin on things, a soundbite out of context, just to get readers (and by extension create further discord).
    Feb 1, 2022
  12. Wilewarer
    Wilewarer
    I feel like the 20th Joe Rogan COVID blowup isn't bringing in too many new listeners. Figure most of them would've tuned in by blowup 19. Like the Neil Young angle is new but this has happened so many times before, it's sort of boring.
    Feb 1, 2022
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  13. BenjaminBore
    BenjaminBore
    1/4. Historically he's been a smart and insightful guy, and produced a great podcast. The podcast style is a conversation, which happens to be recorded, and like everyone he says dumb shit sometimes or can change his mind 5 minutes later.
    Feb 1, 2022
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  14. BenjaminBore
    BenjaminBore
    2/4. As I bet you've experienced @purr1n when your voice has reach everything you say in public is given greater weight than intended and gets taken as a public statement or position. Even distorted for other people's agendas, or used against you.
    Feb 1, 2022
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  15. BenjaminBore
    BenjaminBore
    3/4. I haven't listened as much lately but at least up to and including the Ivermectin thing, right or wrong, he has been mischaracterized and taken out of context. (IIRC Ivermectin research had shown some efficacy as an anti-viral, but there wasn't hard evidence yet re. Covid). He also took onboard reasons for younger people getting vaccinated on one I watched and was positive about it.
    Feb 1, 2022
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  16. BenjaminBore
    BenjaminBore
    4/4. Since then I've only seen some clips but he now 'seems' to be continually misinformed & resistant to facts. He seems personally attached to his perspective, bias, distrustful, and not objective. He's human, showing poor judgement in this case, but not necessarily an idiot or crazy. He's also always had controversial figures on the show to hear them out, even debate against them at times and call them out on BS.
    Feb 1, 2022
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  17. purr1n
    purr1n
    I'm subbing to Spotify to listen to him. Will report back.
    Feb 1, 2022
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  18. Mithrandir41
    Mithrandir41
    @Cellist88 ,I think you missed the point. The world is full of misinformation; to avoid it, you'd have to remove yourself entirely.
    Feb 1, 2022
  19. murphythecat
    murphythecat
    as far as im concern, those responsible of misinformation is definitely not Rogan
    Feb 1, 2022
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  20. james444
    james444
    Rogan seems like a nice guy overall, but he definitely has a soft spot for conspiracy theories. Until a few years ago, he was a fervent moon landing denier:
    https://tinyurl.com/2edpkevu

    However, his response to Neil & Joni is quite measured and I have to give him credit for that:
    https://tinyurl.com/2pccd297
    Feb 1, 2022
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  21. Kunlun
    Kunlun
    You can cancel them as long as I get to toss all vaccine sceptics with more than 25 followers, including Rogen, into a live volcano. These lies aren't just words, they encourage people to forego the single best way to not die of covid.
    Feb 1, 2022
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  23. purr1n
    purr1n
    It's a podcast. Maybe three or four episodes with the nutty guest professors, out of almost 2000. Listen to his podcasts. They are truly harmless. The only reason they are harmful is because the media amplifies those three episodes into more than they really are rather than ignore them as stupid podcast interview banter.
    Feb 1, 2022
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  24. BenjaminBore
    BenjaminBore
    I haven't listened to these episodes, but sounds inline with all the ones that I have. Everyone has to be their own fact checker these days, and to a much higher bar than a 2 minute google + confirmation bias. - Harmful as some of it may be free speech is free speech, without it we'd all be much worse off in the long run, and re. the pitchfork mob: liberal fascism is still fascism.
    Feb 1, 2022
  25. murphythecat
    murphythecat
    Fuck censorship. Censorship of any kind goes against everything I believe in. Why be scared of someone else opinion?
    Feb 1, 2022
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  26. DigMe
    DigMe
    Rogan has definitely amplified way sketchy guests since before COVID was a thing - case in point: Alex Jones has been a recurring guest.
    Feb 1, 2022
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  27. Thad E Ginathom
    Thad E Ginathom
    OK...

    Fuck censorship. fine.
    Let those who want to talk dangerous crap talk dangerous crap. fine
    (Yes, making a big noise only promotes it)

    BUT...

    If an organisation pays vast amounts of money to a dangerous crap spreader, isn't that something to stand against?

    (...General principles. I haven't seen Joe Rogan)
    Feb 2, 2022
  28. murphythecat
    murphythecat
    the Doctors Rogan interviews sometimes makes a innaccurate statement. Big whoopdie doo. This whole thing is not because " Joe spread disinformation". After seeing the McCullough and Malone interview, its quite evident the establishment is worried about all the true information being shared in those interviews that isnt being told in the MSM. This is why the media is trying to demolish Rogan credibility.
    Feb 2, 2022
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