Ti_Leo

Just question yourself as to why you were reading random reports ;)

Without a common reference and descriptive language, SQ reports really are worthless

I'm China, people love using vague sentences here, acting as they are more "profound"

The only way I like the LCD-4 is with @rhythmdevils mods. It goes from “meh,” to “I want to buy one.”

@Vansen - yep, RD's version is absolutely my favorite headphone. It's the sole reason I've held on to my LCD-4.

I hope I can make these for you all soon. So frustrating. Beauty that cannot be is the worst!!

I'd say that the "suspension headband"? That both Hifiman and Audeze currently using are fine, and the latest ZMF and Meze (IIRC) headbands look even better.

But hey, guess who's been struggling with this on-head weight problem too? Apple.

I thought the weight would bother me, but it's been basically fine. I wear them for at most an hour to an hour and a half at a time, as I just listen in short sessions to pretty much all HPs. So, I can see them getting uncomfortable over longer periods. But I've not felt any discomfort for myself.

One thing I find myself is that I'm OK with heavy headphones, IF the headband is alright (not old Audeze ones ugh). I guess it's just me wearing headphones a lot and play VR games (mostly Beat Saber) sometimes, and I think these two actions helps with each other

Just what happened to me a week or so ago. And I checked a heap of things before getting to that damn plug.

What I don't understand it's that it sounded ok with YouTube speech content: it was only when I switched to music that it turned crap.

That's it. How did I wrote that much?

I'm a lonely man.

No, all good bro. But you might wanna create a thread on this instead.

@joch Thanks but... This comparison is based on two broken / modded amps, I don't think it's that valid? Besides, no one is really considering that €4000 amp, right?

It's like there are even more mounting clips on BT. Yep, I counted them, 12 vs 9 on normal ones. Maybe they went for better seal on BT, if taking off the pads were not a PITA...

Do the 9 clipped pads fit in the other? Because you can use other stuff to seal the pads better.

Nope, first look was like the arrangement of the clips were flipped upside down, but due to egg shape of them, I couldn't force the smaller end into the bigger end, then I found the numbers were then different.

Maybe it's the PCB, chips and batteries in BT made the mounting screw holes moved a bit, then some of the original clips hole were too close to some screw holes causing structure vulnerability, maybe?

Maybe Ananda needs more power to drive, as it just sounds a bit off. Deva Pro sounds much better timbre-wise.

And maybe it's better detail retrieval, or just more pronounced in that frequency, I think Ananda is "good" at picking up low level electric noise, I guess it might not be wise to pair it with some noisy Bluetooth source. Oh, wait...

And it's my current No.1 "speaker-like" headphone, it's so transparent, I can hear everything outside and it sounds the same listening from the back of the headphones... (Reminder: I took all the back damping material off (A PCB window with black cloth mesh))

Anyway, it should be great for PC use, like gaming? 3D printing cat ears now!!!!!

I applied some sound damping material and some felt in the cup, solved the treble peak (I think), then changed the headband, since my pair is V1, the OG headband sucks...

Oh, I forgot, also, pads swap...

The good thing about these headphones is that they have some bloated bass, making music fun, kinda reminds me of TH-X00 Purpleheart, not to that much bloated, but they are just more fun than HE6SE V1 (and I think I've made HE6SE a bit bloated already)

I was playing around with my recent-found dynamat-like material, I applied some strips of it to the inner wall, but I just didn't like the metal sheet of the material, so I put some sound damping foam on in, so I made two layers of rings.

Then I found that the vocal was quite muffled. I didn't think my boring mod would make any sense, but after taking the foam off, the liveliness of vocal was back.

It's a great experiment to me, because I did want to tune down the highs a bit, so now I left 1/3 ring of foam in, and I'm happy. (other changes to my HE6SE: ZMF suede pads with bassports, 3D printed grill. Yes, I'm sensitive to treble peaks)

Ok, 13 minutes later, I came up with a theory: because the treble was compressed more in reaction videos so relatively, mids got more pronounced.

Warmpoo FTW!!!

= Equal points:
= Same painful headbands.
= Same build.
= Same cable.
= Same overall feeling of sound. (Sorry I really don't want to dive deep on these two headphones.)

- points for Deva Pro:
-- I can't use my freaking 3.5mm balanced cable due to the freaking Bluetooth thingy compatibility.
-- Bad earpads compatibility, not the normal Hifiman ring type pads mounts... Sigh.
- More expensive for ~ same sound.
- I don't think I can do easy grill mod on this one.

Oh, one more thing (or two), both HE400SE and Deva Pro are the "Stealth Magnets" version. The magnets... are not that D-shape in their promoting materials. It's just like the designer made the bevel width 3x, and that's it.

I don't know how hard it is to work on magnets, but that doesn't feel "stealthy" enough to me.

I'll stick to the VU meters.

Cat eyes are next level

Where's the dislike button ...?

Still, could be my half broken Rag, but everything else sounds OK, except some known issue to me. Yea, maybe need to look elsewhere. (ESP 95X is goooood!)

Do you have any other amps to test on? or pick up something popular on the used market so it's easy to resell.

Ok, I blew the dust off my Vali 2+, and plugged it into my system.

HD800 sounds smoother on Vali 2+, and I just feel little fatigue, definitely bearable. But it also just sounds a bit plain, while it sounded much more assuring on Rag.

Come to think of it, the pain could even be caused by higher volume on Rag? Because it was really good, I needed more!

Guess HD800 + Rag is not a good match, here at least.

That's a Piety + EC ZDT Jr.! Love that. Thanks for sharing!

Oh my, a Piety? Galactic Mind!

The headphones with that setup makes me sad

Thought these videos were interesting: https://youtu.be/GAxOMfiqiVg?si=3CKyWM22g4HuuA1H and https://youtu.be/CO5zoyIbV40?si=rL9dxoxMeNkVkzeq
Second one has a test where there are some considerations if there is a transformer involved.

Sorry guys, I really tried to take them apart, I even unplugged everything and put my screw driver out. But living in China, I need to do OT, sigh.

The noise should be from a cheap voltage adjustable PSU. I swapped it to a fixed V one, and the noise was much lower now (but still auditable from Ragnarok V1 -> E-mu Teak only. HD800, HE6SE and even ifi iESL -> KOSS ESP950 sounded OK)

The cheap power conditioner is Weiduka AC2.2, I believe it's normal transformer type? Ref pics: https://hifi-inside.com/audio-cable-accessories/ac-power-distributor-filter/weiduka

The expensive one: Chang Lightspeed CLS 3200 ISO MKII. I did open it up, one of the LEDs were gone but the "candles" looked OK? Ref pic:https://www.audionet.com.tw/data/attachment/forum/201611/01/150822ctb8ovbbh4kvt484.jpg