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HE560 V4 sounds pretty good, could be perfect for daily use on PC, except the itchy flurry new pads and pressure sensitive drivers Sep 27, 2021 at 12:44 AM

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    1. Ti_Leo
      Ti_Leo
      HE560 V4 sounds pretty good, could be perfect for daily use on PC, except the itchy flurry new pads and pressure sensitive drivers
      1. Ti_Leo
        Ti_Leo
        IIRC, the OG HE560 sounded quite spikey on treble, didn't like it.
        HE560 V2 sounded dull, boring (2.5mm socket).
        V3 was just a headband lengthened version of V2 with 3.5mm connection.
        Now V4 sounds a bit warm and more... musical? It could use a bit of more subbass, but good enough.
        Sep 27, 2021 at 12:50 AM
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    2. Ti_Leo
      Ti_Leo
      I like the sound of RCA 6CG7 clear top in ZD SE, sweet!
      1. Azimuth likes this.
      2. Ti_Leo
        Ti_Leo
        I can't do AB comparison, as my amp is broken, if I swap tube, the right channel will be off.

        From my limited time with the 6CG7 (used), it sounds sweeter, a bit wetter, maybe low end rolls off a bit, but it's OK. I just need that bit of sweetness to make ZD SE sounds a bit relaxed. Good!
        Sep 16, 2021
      3. Azimuth
        Azimuth
        One of my favorite tubes!
        Sep 16, 2021
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      4. Ti_Leo
        Ti_Leo
        @Azimuth great, now you set my mind at ease, as I don't need to think about tubes in the near future.
        Sep 16, 2021
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    3. Ti_Leo
      Ti_Leo
      I'm anxious to hear how good Holo Spring L3 (but not KTE, because it's CN version) is, I put a mouse pad on it, then ZD SE on the top.
      1. Ti_Leo
        Ti_Leo
        But I'm wondering: what if I put or glue a heating desk mat under the DAC? It should speed up the warming up process, right?
        Aug 10, 2021
      2. GoodEnoughGear
        GoodEnoughGear
        I can't imagine this was remotely a design consideration. Read the manual, I'm guessing if this were a good idea it'd be in there.
        Aug 10, 2021
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      3. Ti_Leo
        Ti_Leo
        Aug 10, 2021
    4. Ti_Leo
      Ti_Leo
      Living without a DAC for ~60 days. Driving my AAA 789 (meh), LP (good), ZD SE (yeaaaah) using a GSX 1000, yes, that Sennheiser gaming thing.
      1. Walderstorn likes this.
      2. Ti_Leo
        Ti_Leo
        Modius stuck in the CN customs, can't get a (used) Bifrost 2 here. Only old stuff on used market, like Spring 1, Yggdrasil A1, Gungnir Multibit A1. Otherwise, Audio-GD, Denafrips or some weird DIY stuff if I don't want DS DACs, sigh.
        Aug 2, 2021
      3. DigMe
        DigMe
        Going on 17 months now! Thanks a lot, COVID!
        Aug 2, 2021
      4. Ti_Leo
        Ti_Leo
        And as vaccination rates going up, Delta variant enters the chat. Ugh.
        Aug 2, 2021
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    5. Ti_Leo
      Ti_Leo
      Bought a cheap ZD SE from a sketchy seller. One of the 6C33C-Bs barely lighted, but the sound seemed to be fine, or actually, amazing.
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      3. Ti_Leo
        Ti_Leo
        @thegunner100 My unit has a different problem I think: The seller broke one of the rectifier tubes, so I guess it took something in the right channel with it. But I can use both of the channels after "warming up" the tubes, and the volume on right channel stays, or even the it sounded a bit loud or brighter to me. Anyway, thank you all the same, and glad to see your amp is working now.
        Jul 18, 2021
      4. thegunner100
        thegunner100
        Ahh sorry to hear that. It was worth a try :(
        Jul 18, 2021
      5. Ti_Leo
        Ti_Leo
        It's OK, I bought this unit hoping it's just a broken tube problem, but planned for much worse, like there's only bricks in the package. (I'm in China, so...) I guess the broken is not toooo big? At least one of the channels still works, so I can use it as reference. Time for me to learn some real electricity!
        Jul 18, 2021
    6. Ti_Leo
      Ti_Leo
      Hi, a silly question: does Pi2AES support touchscreen via HDMI +USB? Thanks!
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      2. Michael Kelly
        Michael Kelly
        I stand corrected! I was only thinking of HDMI or DSI displays. SPI displays and parallel rgb displays are blocked, but I2C displays can be used as we have those signals on the 16-pin header on our pi2aes.
        Jun 8, 2021
      3. Woland
        Woland
        @Michael Kelly Probably not what @Ti_Leo had in mind either... but I have one of those dispalys, and it seems to be unusable with any audio HAT.
        Jun 8, 2021
      4. Ti_Leo
        Ti_Leo
        @Woland Yea, I just wanted get a cheapo small screen from Taobao, normal one is enough for me, and I don't even know what you two were talking about, hahah.
        Jun 9, 2021
    7. Ti_Leo
      Ti_Leo
      Accidently sold both of my DACs while the replacement still has 2 weeks to arrive... Hello, Chifi cheapo R2R DAC my old friend...
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      2. Biodegraded
      3. Cspirou
        Cspirou
        Github is cool
        May 26, 2021
      4. Ti_Leo
        Ti_Leo
        @Biodegraded No no no, the DAC I'm looking at is just a board, I even need to find some psu for it. Which made me hesitated. @Cspirou Yeah, it's like an approval to me, but the board is not 100% copy so I don't know... Sigh.
        May 26, 2021
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    8. Ti_Leo
      Ti_Leo
      Ashamed to admit I'm super happy using AQ Nighthawk with velour pads for 1 week now. It'd be perfect if someone could bring the mids up...
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      2. Ti_Leo
        Ti_Leo
        @Lyander Yes, I thought about HP-3 also, as both of these headphones are (rumored) using Fostex drivers. Yes, HP-3 feels better than NH, but, it's twice more expensive than NH in China, so... I think I'm fine with NH?
        May 2, 2021
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      3. Lyander
        Lyander
        Ah true, I'd never have bought the HP-3 for retail price (also, the original pads are USD100... each, BEFORE shipping and taxes). On the upside apart from being excessively murky I did rather like the NH, not to mention they're significantly more comfortable to wear!

        Definitely stick with whatever works for you. While I crap on the stock NH a lot personal preferences do matter :P
        May 2, 2021
      4. Ti_Leo
        Ti_Leo
        It's funny that I'm actually having my own NH OG on sale, as I didn't like the OG sound. It's like I had to try very hard to extract the emotion from the bass cloud, but then the slightly peaky treble kicked in and I could only cry for my ears.

        Last week I saw a NH Carbon, with the microsuede pads and cheaper than mine, so I "bought the competition", and found the microsuede pads worked surprisingly well.
        May 2, 2021
    9. Ti_Leo
      Ti_Leo
      Hard to get a Bifrrost 2 in China makes me want to cheap out on some Chinese R2R board. (Don't!)
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    10. Ti_Leo
      Ti_Leo
      Lost my AES cables while moving, now I'm using optical in + SE out on Modius, worst possible option?
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      2. Sqveak
        Sqveak
        No good. Did you feel this way about it prior to using the optical input? What is your source? Have you compared it to the USB input?
        Apr 20, 2021
      3. Ti_Leo
        Ti_Leo
        OK, I found a coaxial cable! So, quick comparison: optical input sounds more two dimensional, mids seems thinner, and the bass seems less also... But coaxial input gives me more congested feeling, seems like it generates some sense of depth by pulling the vocal closer while optical sounds more laid back. I prefer coaxial input on Modius.
        Apr 20, 2021
      4. Ti_Leo
        Ti_Leo
        Oh, my source is Pi2AES, and I didn't use USB input for long, as it generated noise over time, replugging USB cable resolved the problem for some short time, but it would come back. I guess the problem was more on my PC.
        Apr 20, 2021
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    11. Ti_Leo
      Ti_Leo
      Vintage DT990 with worn black pads sound dark and mids centric, with good bass, I like them a lot. Wonder how Beyer became like this.
      1. Cryptowolf
        Cryptowolf
        I still listen to a recabled DT880 250 ohm. It may not have the best overall sound signature, but I enjoy it for an everyday open headphone.
        Jan 18, 2021
    12. Ti_Leo
      Ti_Leo
      Imagine a "Hifiman R1X"
    13. Ti_Leo
      Ti_Leo
      Spent half a day trying to figure out why my Pi2AES had no sound. Turned out it's just loose AES cable connection. Typical...
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      2. Michael Kelly
        Michael Kelly
        Was it loose at the PI2AES side? hopefully it was not an issue with the connectors on our board, but please let us know if it was.
        Oct 27, 2020
      3. Ti_Leo
        Ti_Leo
        @Michael Kelly No, it's at the DAC side. The connect at Pi2AES is really firm! Great product!!
        Oct 27, 2020
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    14. Ti_Leo
      Ti_Leo
      HE400 with Dekoni perforated pads sounds surprisingly good. It doesn't sound like cheap-ish old round HFM series, as it's warm and full.
    15. Ti_Leo
      Ti_Leo
      For those who want their HD800s to be more HD650-like, try cheap leather ear pads on AliExpress. Warmer, more bass, smaller soundstage.
      1. Ti_Leo
        Ti_Leo
        Ignore my previous impression of Dekoni leather pads. it was made when the polarity was inverted... I bought used unit with after market BAL cable, turned out the cable was poorly made. Now I fixed it, Dekoni leather pads sound quite shouty, hard and V-shaped to me.
        Oct 12, 2020
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    16. Ti_Leo
      Ti_Leo
      Switching Modi Multibit to Modius: No! Modi Multibit was better! I Love the mids! Switching back to Modi Multibit after a week: Wait... I kinda miss Modius now?
      1. Jinxy245 likes this.
      2. Scott Kramer
        Scott Kramer
        Swear you need 2 diametrically opposing DACS, I try to do that.
        Sep 3, 2020
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      3. Ti_Leo
        Ti_Leo
        @Scott Kramer Well, these two DACs are my attempt on this direction, but as I get to know these two more, I found the weakness on each more often...
        Sep 3, 2020
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    17. Ti_Leo
      Ti_Leo
      It's like there really are 2 types of Elex pads, the softer ones present some metallic sheen while the stiffer ones hardly have that.
      1. Ti_Leo
        Ti_Leo
        The softer ones are really softer and squishy, one press and it's all the way to the bottom. The stiffer ones have this slight initial strength against pressing, then there are soft as well. It's like linear mechanical keyboard switches vs tactile ones...
        Aug 24, 2020
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      2. Poleepkwa
        Poleepkwa
        Did yours have the soft ones originally?
        Aug 25, 2020
      3. Ti_Leo
        Ti_Leo
        Well, I happened to get two pairs recently, so one pair has softer pads and the other pair has stiffer ones. I wouldn't compare them if I didn't buy the latest bunch of Elex pads on Drop, and saw people complaint about soft inferior pads they received (and there's only one pad in the package).

        It's not that much of difference, but if I pay attention, it's there.
        Aug 25, 2020
    18. Ti_Leo
      Ti_Leo
      HD6XX K, take off its grills and the foam pieces behind the drivers, put on HD265 cups and a layer of TP. Closed HD600 completed, somehow.
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      3. Ti_Leo
        Ti_Leo
        @gixxerwimp Nah... really not good at serious comparisons... Plus I want to experiment some cheap protein leather pads on it. Now with HD6XX OG pads, this closed-back HD6XX sounds like lower mids recessed, hallower HD600. It's OK, I wouldn't complain, it's much less V-shaped than TH-X00. But switching back to HD600 / HD650 makes me appreciate the fullness of their sound.
        Aug 21, 2020
      4. gixxerwimp
        gixxerwimp
        In any case, once you get it sorted out, I'm sure others would be interested in your findings. So please do share :D
        Aug 21, 2020
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      5. Ti_Leo
        Ti_Leo
        @gixxerwimp It's so nice of you! I'll post if I can get better result. (Too lazy these days...)
        Aug 21, 2020
    19. Ti_Leo
      Ti_Leo
      SDR + Anaxilus + Dekoni sheepskin pads + 1 layer of facial mask material makes my HD800 sound warm, bassy and closed back. This is strange.
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      2. Ti_Leo
        Ti_Leo
        @Lyander Yep, I admit it sounds too warm now, as I was shocked at beginning. But about comfort, I feel the pads are a bit too thick as they squash my face a bit... OK I have a big head... I'm going to buy some thinner leather pads to compare.
        Jun 14, 2020
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      3. Lyander
        Lyander
        Hmm, thinking that squishing the pads more might actually help? Compress the stuff inside so it's not as wub-wub-wub, but I've not got a large head so limited capacity to compare. Curious whether that'd affect sound a lot now, huh.
        Jun 14, 2020
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      4. Ti_Leo
        Ti_Leo
        Just check the price here, about $15 so it's a must do (I'm in China). I don't like the dust shield cloth inside the Dekoni pads either, as it touches my ears. But those cheap thinner Chinese pads don't have the cloth so they look perfect for me. Btw, I don't really want to squish the Dekoni pads as they use memory foam, don't want to let them memorize the squishing pain.
        Jun 14, 2020
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    20. Ti_Leo
      Ti_Leo
      So weird, swapping ear pads between HE5SE and HE5 (2017) will make both of them sound better to me...
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